Pride Sally, Pride (Sally Quinn on morality of abortion and impact on your choice of candidate)

CMR ^ | September 17, 2008 | Patrick Archbold

[NYer]

Belief. I have mine. You have yours. We are entitled to them.

A clear example of moral relativism, which is what the pope has been addressing since his election.

[GOP Poet]

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[workerbee]

Sally Quinn is a dingbat.

Is that a fact, or just my belief? Hm...

[thefrankbaum]

Another great line is:

You can't legislate morality!

What on earth do these people think murder laws are? They are moral judgments! Yes, they may be very common moral judgments, but that is all they are.

[scory]

Ms. Quinn is a practicing atheist (i.e. - one who does his own will no matter what he/she may profess). This is a very common type found in all political parties and in every religion.

[JWinNC]

Quinn is repugnant and evil. Her comments (forgot the network) about what the "right" should think about Palin were so outrageous as to be nearly unbelievable.

She is vile.

"My belief is that when a fetus is viable, when it can survive on its own, then it is a human being."

When would that be? How many 1 month old babies survive on their own? How many 6 month old babies survive on their own? How many 2 year olds survive on their own?

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[Philo-Junius]

Can Sally Quinn survive without others?

I’d like to see her kill and field dress a moose, say, before I accord her an unlimited right to life, then.

Or gather and grind enough roots and berries to sustain her.

The huge majority of people on the planet don’t have a right to life by her argument.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

"My beliefs are based, not on religion, but on my own sense of morality. I do not want others imposing their religious beliefs on me."

It's not a "belief" but a fact. At her age, she'll find out out soon enough.

[Alouette]

What makes Sally Quinn qualified to expound about anything? She banged her way to the top of the Washington Post society pages. She is nothing but an immoral old gossip.

[Philo-Junius]

Sally Quinn posing as an arbiter of morality is like Livia in I, Claudius engineering her deification so that she can be elevated above judgment for the sins she committed clawing her way up the social ladder.

[Jvette]

I especially find the claim that a woman has a right to do with her body what she wants a specious one.

First, it is not a woman’s body which is being dismembered or destroyed.

Second, society has many laws which prohibit what one can legally do with one’s body. Two examples which quickly come to mind, prostitution and illegal drugs. If the current trend continues this will also include smoking and eating certain foods.

I agree that the debate, as yet, has been on the pro-abortions terms. It is important to make people understand that the right to life is the first one protected in the constitution and without it, there is no need of any others.

I also think that inconsistency and ambiguity hurts the cause. I am one who opposes abortion for any reason, even in cases of rape, incest and risk to the health of the mother.

Another position that gets my goat is the one which acknowledges the horrors of abortion and claims a desire for a reduction of abortion or “to make it safe, legal and rare.” The number one way to immediately reduce the number of abortions by many millions a year world wide is to make them illegal.

Millions of women have had abortions they would never have had because abortion is legal. Millions of women equated legal with moral and aborted their own children without realizing the enormity of what they have done.

This is an epic battle. One which cannot be given up. It may not be profitable to discuss this in terms of faith, but I have no doubt that a country that continues to slaughter its children in the womb has no business asking God for His blessings.

[JZelle]

Isn’t this the broad that made that insincere apology about Palin, on the O’Reilly show last week?

[NYer]

It is important to make people understand that the right to life is the first one protected in the constitution and without it, there is no need of any others.

Bears repeating!! Without life, there is no hope; there are no voters; there is no tax base; there is no future.

[berkley]

Maybe I don’t “believe” that slavery is wrong. /sarc

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

Right. Or murder, theft, rape. Do they want to decriminalize EVERYTHING prohibited in the moral codes of Judaism and Christianity?

It's not a "belief" or some deep, obscure theological mystery that a pre-natal child is a human being, as a point of fact and common sense.

Things get a little bizarre when atheists, who do not believe in an immortal human soul, start fishing for delayed ensoulment arguments for abortion.

We would take it then that she would oppose abortion in ALL cases where the fetus has reached viability? And that it would be a homicide to abort such a viable fetus?

[arthurus]

Life does NOT begin at conception. Life began once either when God Said or out of the primordial slime long ago. At conception ahuman life begins.At the point of juncture between an egg and a sperm all of the blueprint is in place and construction of a human being begins.

One can "believe" that life begins at "quickening" or at exit from the womb or at majority, 18 or 21. One can "believe" that life begins when a child leaves his family or at any other arbitrary and convenient point. The only fixed, non-arbitrary point for the beginning of life is when God Said. The only non arbitrary established beginning point for an individual human life is conception.

The left desires a political definition of life and its beginning in order to justify the killing of some human beings for the use and convenience of other human beings and for the convenience of the State. The collectivist believes the only individual human life is The State and people are simply dispensable parts of The State to be rearranged and killed for reasons of The State.

[arthurus]

Life does NOT begin at conception. Life began once either when God Said or out of the primordial ooze long ago. At conception a human life begins.At the point of juncture between an egg and a sperm all of the blueprint is in place and construction of a human being begins. One can "believe" that life begins at "quickening" or at exit from the womb or at majority, 18 or 21. One can "believe" that life begins when a child leaves his family or at any other arbitrary and convenient point. The only fixed, non-arbitrary point for the beginning of life is when God Said. The only fixed, non arbitrary beginning point for an individual human life is conception. The left desires a political definition of life and its beginning in order to justify the killing of some human beings for the use and convenience of other human beings and for the convenience of the State. The collectivist believes the only individual human life is The State and people are simply dispensable parts of The State to be rearranged and killed for reasons of The State.

[arthurus]

The Left is for abortion and against capital punishment because they do not believe in any sort of actual immortality or God and because they know that they, already born and adult, cannot be aborted and abortion is no danger to them. They can, however see themselves on death row waiting to be executed. They do not believe in God or in any moral system so to them punishment is arbitrary and can happen to anyone. They do not really connect punishment with certain acts. Deep down they fear that they might arrested and executed for something.

Because the Left cannot imagine God then the highest goods are Convenience and Pleasure.

[NYer]

They do not believe in God or in any moral system so to them punishment is arbitrary and can happen to anyone.

Until some doctor advises them they have a mortal disease and are only months away from death. Then they scurry to the nearest priest to make their confession and arrange for a Catholic funeral service. God always welcomes back the Prodigal Son.