Posted on 07/26/2008 1:30:09 PM PDT by NYer
I certainly hope Dolan correctly stated that only married Anglican converts can be ordained under the 1980 Pastoral Provision. Other married protestant converts who are ordained are done so with a dispensation from the discipline of celibacy. They too must agree to adopt the discipline of celibacy should their spouse precede them in death.
Was and still is. Better read all of Hebrews, perhaps for the very first time.
"Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly vocation, consider the apostle and high priest of our confession, Jesus:" Hebrews 3:1
"Having therefore a great high priest that hath passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God: let us hold fast our confession." Hebrews 4:14
"As He saith also in another place: Thou art a priest for ever, according to the order of Melchisedech. Who in the days of His flesh, with a strong cry and tears, offering up prayers and supplications to Him that was able to save Him from death, was heard for His reverence. And whereas indeed He was the Son of God, He learned obedience by the things which He suffered: And being consummated, He became, to all that obey Him, the cause of eternal salvation. Called by God a high priest according to the order of Melchisedech." Hebrews 5:6-10
"But this, for that He continueth for ever, hath an everlasting priesthood, Whereby He is able also to save for ever them that come to God by Him; always living to make intercession for us. For it was fitting that we should have such a high priest, holy, innocent, undefiled, separated from sinners, and made higher than the heavens" Hebrews 7:24-26
"Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ." St. Jerome
The Canon of the Bible was closed in 405 AD by Pope St. Innocent I. The original Nicene Creed was adopted in 325 AD at the First Council of Nicaea.
Do Catholic priests take vows of poverty?
In any case the Church has two choices. Allow priests to marry and grow the numbers in the priesthood or don't allow marriage and let the numbers continue to shrink.
That's a common myth.
There are waiting lists for conservative, traditional seminaries.
Good answer.
Is there the same number of seminaries as there was fifty years ago?
If what you claim is true then why does the Church constantly bemoan the age/lack of priests?
And I am currently in a clash with someone who maintains it was the rule from the earliest days.
Anybody got some good sources on celibacy, I mean in addition to I Tim 3:2 and 3:12 and Titus 1:6?
The church has revealed that there have been 13,000 credible accusations against Catholic clerics since 1950. ............... Our next door neighbor was compensated for her child, the child of one of the priests. It never made the news in the 50’s. I was groped by a young priest when I was about 11, and I wasn’t alone, same parish. (As kids during those days you didn’t report those things because you were afraid.) Another good looking priest who had the women parishioners swooning, donned black leather and a motorcycle and spent his evenings in the Village(NYC) and he wasn’t saving souls. Priests are human and have the same amount of hormones as anyone else. This whole thing about unmarried priests is going against human nature and nature in general. I believe it all started because they didn’t want to make priesthood a family business where father passed it on to his son(s) and thus creating a special class? I’m sure there are many married Catholic men who would make great Priests as many married men make great Rabbis, Ministers and Mullahs. I would think a family man as a priest would have a better outlook on life as he is responsible for the health, welfare, support and education of his family from when they are born until they die.
Because far too many seminaries are watered-down liberalized pap factories.
It sure goes against the oversexualized world of the 21st century.
As it should.
I believe it all started because they didn’t want to make priesthood a family business where father passed it on to his son(s) and thus creating a special class?
I'm sure you believe a lot of things. I wonder if any of them are true.
But I will now study the second. Thanks.
Only certain orders, such as the Franciscans. Diocesan priests do not take vows of poverty. They do, however, take a vow of obedience to their bishop.
it is the basic Christian statement of faith, period. The Creed of Nicea is considered absolute doctrine in the Church.
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