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Popular notions, Bible clash over heaven
Baptist Press ^ | July 17, 2008 | Norm Miller

Posted on 07/18/2008 6:46:18 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

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To: epow
Correction to my last post. The Great White Throne judgment will take place at the end of the Millennium, not at the end of this present age as I said in #240.
241 posted on 07/21/2008 8:13:37 AM PDT by epow ("My God is the Great I Am, not the Great I Was")
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To: Truth Defender

I remember you now. I disagree with you. Eternal life in hell is a far, far worse (I’d put the word far a trillion times if I could)fate than merely being cast into a lake of fire. That’s why so much is at stake. If I thought my unsaved brother would only lose the blessing of heaven I would not be nearly as concerned about him as I am. There is a HUGE difference between not attaining something lovely and merely being killed vs. living for all eternity knowing that one could have had the opportunity to have life with our Lord, yet suffer every single day, every single hour, forever and ever. I shudder at even the thought of a week in Hell’s torments.

I’ve read a couple of books by people who believe that they have witnessed the reality of hell. I don’t know whether it is real or not, but I have no argument with them as the people seem reasonable and sane. It’s all I need to know.


242 posted on 07/21/2008 11:51:57 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: epow
Last night I promised not to take any further part in this discussion, and I have already broken that promise with this post. But this is definitely my last comment on this thread since we are obviously at an impasse on the issue.

Okay, that's your right. But be aware that there are just as many who don't accept your view as there are that do. And many of those who hold to the traditional view of the interim state of the dead are starting to question its validity; they are of many denominations of Christianity and many are theological professors in the various Bible colleges and seminaries here in America and even overseas. It's been nice to chat with you, but all things must come to an end sometimes. Bye for now. Maybe on another topic in another thread :-)

243 posted on 07/21/2008 11:52:21 AM PDT by Truth Defender (History teaches, if we but listen to it; but no one really listens!)
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To: Paved Paradise

Okay, then a response is not needed. Thank you for your input, even though you now give up and are satisfied with experiences of people’s dreams.


244 posted on 07/21/2008 11:57:40 AM PDT by Truth Defender (History teaches, if we but listen to it; but no one really listens!)
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To: Alex Murphy

For later read and comment.


245 posted on 07/21/2008 1:17:49 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Truth Defender

I didn’t need their dreams to support my belief, but it sure didn’t hurt it. Unlike you, who apparently disregard whole texts of Scripture. Of course, I know you have studied this a long, long time.

I have no beef with you, but just be careful, because guess who else knows Scripture backwards and forwards and knows every language every written or spoken? You know who.


246 posted on 07/21/2008 5:55:23 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise

Do these people explain exactly how they have witnessed the reality of hell? Did they come back from the dead?


247 posted on 07/22/2008 7:13:44 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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