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Catechism of the Catholic Church: Prologue
Vatican ^ | 1997

Posted on 06/14/2008 1:01:32 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: markomalley; P-Marlowe
You postulated an open thread for the RCC catechism, much like P-Marlowe is hosting Calvin's Institutes on an open thread.

However, for some reason you've changed your mind and have labeled this an Ecumenic thread.

Open threads are productive and challenging and informative.

Ecumenic threads are not a place for challenges. Therefore, I don't care to reread the RCC catechism without being permitted to challenge its manifold errors.

Thanks all the same.

21 posted on 06/14/2008 3:15:25 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

What the Ecumenic tread bars is antagonism. Challenges are fine.

On the other hand, this thread is not about the “RCC catechism,” but rather the Catechism of the Catholic Church.


22 posted on 06/14/2008 3:26:46 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Petronski
I never refer to myself as RCC, why do they insist on calling us that? Might be a dumb question, but I am curious.
23 posted on 06/14/2008 3:31:34 PM PDT by defconw (Pray for Snow!)
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To: defconw

I believe it is to avoid casting even a faint, tangentially-reflected ray of respect on the Catholic Church.


24 posted on 06/14/2008 3:40:04 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: 1000 silverlings
Is kind of funny though, the faith, if genuine, should be able to withstand the "feeble fifteen" nobody wants invited

LOL. Very true.

"Strengthen ye the weak hands, and confirm the feeble knees.

Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you.

Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped." -- Isaiah 35:3-5


25 posted on 06/14/2008 3:49:15 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Petronski

Ah! I see, well I am a Roman Rite Catholic, but any Rite in a storm? :)


26 posted on 06/14/2008 3:50:07 PM PDT by defconw (Pray for Snow!)
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To: defconw

Technically, isn’t it “Latin Rite?”

Not to be antagonistic, though.


27 posted on 06/14/2008 3:51:45 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Petronski

Yes, you are correct, what the H was I thinking? LOL, long day my friend.


28 posted on 06/14/2008 3:53:22 PM PDT by defconw (Pray for Snow!)
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To: markomalley

I’m sure that you made this decision (to label it Ecumenic) based on the input you received.

I trust that it will prove worthwhile and free of antagonism.

Pax Christi

ROE


29 posted on 06/14/2008 4:10:13 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words:"It's too late"))
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To: 1000 silverlings; Dr. Eckleburg

Thanks for the ping.

However, I gave up Ecumenic for Valentine’s Day, Lent, Resurrection Sunday, Spring, Mother’s Day; Flag Day; Father’s Day; 4th of July, Labor Day, Veteran’s Day; Thanksgiving; Christmas and new Year’s . . . and all the days in between.

My finger’s just can’t wrap their pinkiness around all that gladhanding. They are afraid of being crushed by so much overwhelming niceness.

Therefore, I don’t bother much about the Ecumenic Threads.

Thanks anyway.


31 posted on 06/14/2008 4:19:57 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: markomalley; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
These paragraphs talk about the importance of a good catechesis in the formation of the young and of the neophytes. How many things result from a poor catechesis?

Catholics who are poorly formed in their faith!

When I attended Catholic elementary school, the St. Joseph's Catechism was the method of catechesis. It is all based on questions and answers.

Q: Why did God make us?

A: He made us to know, love and serve Him in this world and be happy with Him forever, in the next.

Many of the dioceses now resort to cutsy, new age teaching methods that simply don't work. It's time the Church restored the Catechism as the preferred method of catechesis.

34 posted on 06/14/2008 4:45:58 PM PDT by NYer (Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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We had the Baltimore Catechism in my schools. Sounds like the same questions.


35 posted on 06/14/2008 4:53:24 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Peregrine, patron saint of cancer patients, pray for us.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“Open threads are productive and challenging and informative.”

Yes, they are. But it does waste time having to scroll past the verbiage and drivel repeated on thread after thread after thread by the same boring, error-ridden posters who, while they have opinions and interpretations, are just that, opinions and interpretations.

~Not to mention the crayola gabble of others.

It does tend to waste time.


36 posted on 06/14/2008 5:08:46 PM PDT by OpusatFR (I'm right. All the time. Ask my groom.)
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To: NYer

“Q: Why did God make us?
A: He made us to know, love and serve Him in this world and be happy with Him forever, in the next.”

I remember that! I also remember being disappointed because the little materialist in my little self couldn’t understand it.

It’s only at this late age that I understand.

I have to check and see what they are teaching the young’uns at our parish. Maybe that is what we all must do. Ask questions. I never thought of finding out what they are teaching the little ones. I do know that they are called out of the Liturgy of the Word to have their own lesson on the Gospel and readings for the day.

But as far as the children preparing for FHC, I don’t know what their instruction is. Maybe the oldsters should ask more questions.


37 posted on 06/14/2008 5:22:52 PM PDT by OpusatFR (I'm right. All the time. Ask my groom.)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Another non-edifying post.


38 posted on 06/14/2008 5:48:26 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words:"It's too late"))
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To: ConorMacNessa
We had the Baltimore Catechism in my schools. Sounds like the same questions.

Yes - the St. Joseph Cathechism is the Baltimore Catechism.


39 posted on 06/14/2008 5:54:18 PM PDT by NYer (Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: defconw
"Does anyone know if the new (not sure what to call it) for lack of a better term, book with all the footnotes expanded is complete yet?"

Yes. "The Companion to the Catechism of the Catholic Church" came out in 2002.

40 posted on 06/14/2008 5:55:32 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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