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DR. PUSEY ON THE WORSHIP OF MARY IN THE CHURCH OF ROME
Sword and the Trowel ^ | 1866 | Charles Spurgeon

Posted on 05/14/2008 10:16:49 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg

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To: BnBlFlag

I’m so disappointed in your comment. LOL!


281 posted on 05/15/2008 12:22:39 PM PDT by carton253 (www.headquartersanv.blogspot.com -- for conversations about the Army of Northern Virginia.)
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To: NucSubs

See #279


282 posted on 05/15/2008 12:23:37 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: Religion Moderator

“But even if she had “made it personal” - two wrongs would not make it right.”

You’re right of course. I’m sorry.

I was looking for consistency in treatment. We see her comments towards me differently I guess. So be it.


284 posted on 05/15/2008 12:25:26 PM PDT by NucSubs (Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: IrishCatholic
There is only bigotry, hatred, and ignorance.

I don't hate Mary or Diana worshipers. I find them very intresting. I find that Wiccans have far less reverence and all other words that mean worship for the Goddess than Marian RCs have for Mary.

285 posted on 05/15/2008 12:26:06 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (Obamafeld, "A CAMPAIGN ABOUT NOTHING".)
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To: xJones

You are doing great, but as you can see, some just like to argue.

Not being able to do that is sad for them.

They want to fight the 100 Years War again.


286 posted on 05/15/2008 12:32:59 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: 1000 silverlings; Dr. Eckleburg
Being a bible believer apparently means I must have some connection to southerners in the KKK or German nazis, though how thse two are connected is beyond me.

Since I am the one who made the reference that included Hitler (Oh great, an article by a Baptist (Spurgeon) referring to an Anglican (Pusey) selectively quoting on what Catholics believe. So much more reliable than listening to the Catholics themselves. (So, Mr. Hitler, do the Jews really drink the blood of German babies?) I will respond to the statement above.

As I stated earlier, it was not my intention to equate Protestants to Nazis. I here apologize if that was the impression that I gave. The point I was trying to make (and the only point) is that relying on a biased and hostile source like Spurgeon for what Catholics believe is like relying on Hitler (another biased and hostile source) for the practices of the Jews. I find relying on demonstrably anti-Catholic writers as sources of Catholic belief particularly offensive since Catholics themselves are not shy in explaining what we believe. What is the point of going to such a source when there are plenty of Catholic sources to go to?

We are looking for theological truth on threads, not looking to demean people personally.

I have no problem with a rough and tumble give and take. If someone wants to state that Catholic veneration of Mary is excessive or unwarranted (or even unBiblical), that would be fair game. But to insist that Catholics believe something that we have repeatedly denied and to use an anti-Catholic source rather than our own documents to "prove" it is dishonest.

288 posted on 05/15/2008 12:40:31 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: netmilsmom
Well, it's not entirely hopeless yet. Many posters only read the first 10 to 30 posts before taking aim. A few posters actually manage to read to the last posts before firing away.:)

Not that you or I have ever been guilty of that sin, I'm sure......(cough, cough, cough).

290 posted on 05/15/2008 12:47:38 PM PDT by xJones
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To: sandyeggo; NucSubs
Simply learn to drop all the pronouns

"Me" and "they" and "I" are pronouns.

(/grammar lesson)

291 posted on 05/15/2008 12:48:56 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: sandyeggo
Example:

You worship statues and you're ignorant of the Scriptures!

Can be effectively morphed into newspeak thusly:

It seems to me that RC's worship statues and it appears that they have may not the same Scriptural knowledge as I.

***********************

Somehow, it doesn't have the same je ne sais quoi. :)

292 posted on 05/15/2008 12:50:43 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: sandyeggo
God bless you for hijacking it in such a good and timely direction.

God would really bless me if you'd disengage combat long enough to pray for JR and set a good Christian example here. Who knows, this might turn into another powerful Christian thread for a very ill man, the founder of FR. And that would be far more Christian than anything that's being posted on this thread right now. Jim Robinson needs your prayers - it's that's simple - got it?

293 posted on 05/15/2008 12:58:26 PM PDT by xJones
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To: xJones

Didn’t you hear? I’m a walking living saint.
Ask my sisters *snicker*

But I have to say that I am really loving how the new posting is going. I have seen so many signs of love, it warms my heart.

I’m thinking of starting a thank you thread, but I have to pay a bit more attention to the posters. It’s been marvelous!

We have a huge enemy, and it’s not each other!


295 posted on 05/15/2008 1:01:45 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: sandyeggo
Have you ever been to a Catholic Mass

I went to one midnight Christmas mass accompanying a friend of mine

Have you ever read the liturgical order of the Mass?

No, but I will go to the link

298 posted on 05/15/2008 1:11:21 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: P-Marlowe; sandyeggo; NucSubs

Aside from the grammar lesson, sandyeggo has pegged how it is that so much gets under the radar screen. It’s all in knowing how to finesse, I guess. And unless you know how to perfect the art, NucSubs, you may find that there isn’t always consistency.

“It’s the way things are”. (With credit to “Babe”).


299 posted on 05/15/2008 1:12:42 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words:"It's too late"))
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