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Prayers in school?

Posted on 05/13/2008 4:32:39 PM PDT by teacher12

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To: RC2
I don’t believe that pray is a waste of valuable time. Once we go that route, it’s over.

It depends upon the circumstances. If your goal is to teach children math, science, history, etc. in a finite schoolday, then prayer is a waste of valuable time.

(insert obvious joke about praying before a test)

41 posted on 05/13/2008 5:59:59 PM PDT by rosenfan
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“I was in public school four decades ago, and while we recited the Pledge we never prayed or read the Bible.”

May depend on where you went to school. My husband went on the East Coast, specifically Virginia and they did.


42 posted on 05/13/2008 6:08:05 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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I went to school in Denver, and we said the Pledge in elementary school. Never prayed or read the Bible in school.


43 posted on 05/13/2008 6:30:04 PM PDT by rosenfan
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To: teacher12
Hey.. how do you folks feel about prayers in public schools?
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Government schools should be abolished. That would solve the prayer/no-prayer conundrum.

Government schools, freedom of conscience, and the First Amendment can NOT coexist.

44 posted on 05/13/2008 6:54:18 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: teacher12

the principle of religious neutrality has to take precedence
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Did you learn this in your college of education? Really?

It is **impossible** to have a religiously neutral education. It can not exist. It is axiomatic.


45 posted on 05/13/2008 7:01:10 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: teacher12
I believe in most states, legally teens cannot carry guns; concealed or otherwise.
46 posted on 05/13/2008 7:33:07 PM PDT by Vor Lady (Diplomacy without arms is like music without instruments. Alexander the Great)
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To: stayathomemom

My favorite story problem went like this:

Teacher: Johnny, if you had three apples and your sister asked for two of them, how many would you have?

Johnny: Three.


47 posted on 05/13/2008 8:21:05 PM PDT by irishtenor (Check out my blog at http://boompa53.blogspot.com/)
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To: teacher12

Any pupil has an inalienable right to pray privately, or in groups of like-minded schoolmates, so long as it does not interfere with the normal and customary work of a school. Although I am a Christian, I do not favor generic prayers to a nameless deity. I am taught, and believe, that I, an unworthy sinner (albeit one redeemed and saved by the grace of God), am not qualified to approach the throne of grace except that I offer my petitions in the name of Jesus. How many teacher-composed school prayers would be so composed?


48 posted on 05/13/2008 10:02:38 PM PDT by Elsiejay (Rev.)
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To: irishtenor

Very picturesque!


49 posted on 05/14/2008 4:18:22 AM PDT by stayathomemom
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To: kindred

No it is speech. The question is whether you can speak a prayer or not.


50 posted on 05/14/2008 5:32:57 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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