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08-May-2008 | Grig

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To: colorcountry
Hey! Why doesn't my ward have an underground cooking Pit!

Oh.

You're kidding right? I'll give two to one odds all three men are Polynesian, they just don't have the same Idea about Property rights as we "howlies" do. They probably still don't see why what they did was wrong and 943 coconut sized rocks, three guys?

Take my advice, don't mess with these guys, they probably look like a small mountain... Each!
2,201 posted on 07/10/2008 1:56:53 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser

You aren’t bigoted against polynesians now are you?

I should think that everyone can understand simple property rights, but then again, we are talking about gods-in-the-making....perhaps they feel entitled.


2,202 posted on 07/10/2008 1:59:27 PM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: colorcountry
I guess salvation through faith is simply a Biblical concept your mind can’t fathom.

Too bad, and I thought you had a brilliant mind (or so you often say.)


Go and look up James 2: 14-26 We are not talking "Works only" any more than you are saying "Faith only", it takes both faith and works, the Bible says so.
2,203 posted on 07/10/2008 2:01:37 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: colorcountry
Too bad, and I thought you had a brilliant mind (or so you often say.

Can you see the glow from my hear from there? I told my wife this haircut was too short!
2,204 posted on 07/10/2008 2:02:53 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser

Um no it doesn’t. We’ve been round and round on this one.

It says if you haven’t received the desire, ability and strength to do good works, it is an indication that you are not saved. Good works is an indication that you’ve been saved. Anyway, what do secret handshakes have to do with it?

Nice try.


2,205 posted on 07/10/2008 2:03:27 PM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: colorcountry
You aren’t bigoted against polynesians now are you?

I should think that everyone can understand simple property rights, but then again, we are talking about gods-in-the-making....perhaps they feel entitled.


Bigoted against Polynesians Na, they'd crush me like a cracker, bad back you know...

as for being entitled, you just have not known many Polynesians have you, you have to be careful how you complement what they are wearing, they'll give it to you and be offended if you won't take it when they offer. I got a tie that way once... I had to find something else to give my friend that he liked to feel better, he wouldn't take the tie back... at the same time, when the come out of a building, they will get on any bike and ride to where they need to go, it's not stealing, nobody was using it so it was available...

It's just a different way of thinking.

By now you should know of my love of obtaining perspectives...
2,206 posted on 07/10/2008 2:10:08 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser

I know lots of polys (and polygs) too.

My son has been living in Hawaii for years, and my children all attended public school on the west side of the Salt Lake Valley (I will not disclose the particular school, but needless to say, it has the largest percentage of polynesians in the contiguous United States - it has been named the most diverse school in the nation by “teen magazine” - - now you can go look it up, it will give you more reading material).


2,207 posted on 07/10/2008 2:14:55 PM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Reno232
Skypilot claims to not know what my challenge to him was yet all he would have to do is look at that post & look for the word challenge, & voila, right there.

I get "challenges" by the score on the LDS threads.

Just give me the link and/or repeat it for me and I'll address your grievance.

2,208 posted on 07/10/2008 2:30:39 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: SkyPilot

The poster scurried over just long enought to kick some sand in faces and kiss DU’s ring. Can’t get down in the sandbox don’tchaknow! Ah, but at least DU is enjoying his attention.


2,209 posted on 07/10/2008 2:47:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: SkyPilot

Post 2096. Perhaps I shouldn’t have bothered you when you’re so busy.


2,210 posted on 07/10/2008 3:14:28 PM PDT by Reno232
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To: Reno232; MHGinTN; Godzilla; Elsie; greyfoxx39; Zakeet; metmom; DelphiUser
This is the "challenge" in Post #2096 that you have been making so much hay about me not responding?

I would challenge you to look at DU’s post & note where he might have been able to have cut down the answers & still address the issues fully enough w/o misunderstanding. The points he made we dead on. The best you can come back w/ is that he was too verbose?

Good gracious. To even go through one of his posts on this thread is 22 pages in Microsoft Word.

There are others on this very thread that are pages, and pages.

Yes, he is verbose - but he also is all over the map in the cases I have taken the time to to read.

Furhter, I have been reading his posts for months now. Some of his posts took me a very long time to get through, as I attempted to understand him. Sadly, the more I read the more I realized he was not addressing points of fact, but attempting to obscure and obfuscate the issues that were raised.

Specifically, I have seen DU respond to a questions such as who was Christ, and go off in completely irrelevant directions with the thread.

To go "point by point" to him would require one engage in the very abhorrent behavior (which I really believe is abuse of posting privileges) that he engages in.

I can think of no other Freeper on this forum who takes up such significant band with space with posts that are so voluminous that it takes more time to scroll through them as it does to log onto your computer.

Worse, even after pointing out these problems to DU, he laughs, gives "LOLs!", and takes pride in the spam.

Well, there you go - I addressed your complaint. I doubt you will be satisfied, but I weighed that going in.

2,211 posted on 07/10/2008 3:48:10 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: Reno232; Godzilla
One thing I forgot to add when I posted this:

To go "point by point" to him would require one engage in the very abhorrent behavior (which I really believe is abuse of posting privileges) that he engages in.

Freeper Godzilla has attempted to do just as you say, and respond point to point, sentence to sentence, and yet on this thread you criticized Godzilla's own post for being too long?!

Talk about a "Heads I Win, Tails You Lose" challenge?

2,212 posted on 07/10/2008 3:52:22 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: SkyPilot; Godzilla

Well, perhaps I can make it easier on you. Just pick one area or one issue of his post where he might have been able to have cut down the answers substantially & still address the issues fully enough w/o misunderstanding.

BTW, do you really consider ANSWERS to Godzilla’s MULTI PAGE extravaganza, spam? Incidentally, I think you’ll find that Godzilla has had numerous posts that are even longer than the one in question to DU. His posts at times can be much, much longer than the avg. here on FR.

I can’t even imagine how long Godzilla’s posts would be if he were actually defending his beliefs against attacks on a regular basis. It normally takes far longer to defend than to attack.

So, how come no attacks on Godzilla for his verbosity which is far more than the norm here. Is it the length of a post, or perhaps the agenda that matters most to you?

What’s your formula as to how long a response should be to a given question? Noting how many questions were raised in Godzilla’s multi page post, how much time should he have devoted to each, & how much time over that did he expend? Just curious.


2,213 posted on 07/10/2008 4:09:49 PM PDT by Reno232
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To: colorcountry
Um no it doesn’t. We’ve been round and round on this one.

And anti's Still Ignore the Counterevidence

It says if you haven’t received the desire, ability and strength to do good works, it is an indication that you are not saved. Good works is an indication that you’ve been saved.

Tha's not what it says, Lurkers, James 2: 14-26, follow the link, read for yourselves, pray, and see what God has to say about his scriptures.

Anyway, what do secret handshakes have to do with it?

To do with What? Salvation? That's part of the New and Everlasting Covenant (Marriage for all eternity) As Christians, we perform that Ordinance for all by commandment of the Lord, either in life, or after death, for all mankind to accept or reject. That all men may stand equally before the bar of Christ no matter what day and age they lived in. That part of the New and everlasting Covenant can be found in D&C 132: 18-20, we don't claim that this is in the Bible, in fact, that knowledge is lost to the "Orthodox Christian" community.

What I find amazing is that you an ex-Mormon, or a Mormon who left and won't let the church know (however you want us to say that status) ask this, you should know the answer, and it's in the D&C. Like I said there is really nothing in the Temple ceremonies that is not in our standard works.

Nice try.

Likewise...
2,214 posted on 07/10/2008 4:11:20 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: colorcountry
I know lots of polys (and polygs) too.

My son has been living in Hawaii for years, and my children all attended public school on the west side of the Salt Lake Valley (I will not disclose the particular school, but needless to say, it has the largest percentage of polynesians in the contiguous United States - it has been named the most diverse school in the nation by “teen magazine” - - now you can go look it up, it will give you more reading material).


So, then why did you post this article if you know so much about their culture? Oh, either you must have hoped no one else would know, or You didn't know and had to give your son a call...

Cheap smear tactic on display (SOAP - Bring up temple ceremonies and try to change the subject...)
2,215 posted on 07/10/2008 4:15:28 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: SkyPilot

I never complained about the length of Godzilla’s posts other than for me, I rarely have the time to answer all he posts to me.

The reason I brought up the length of Godzilla’s posts is to give reason as to why the response might illicit a lengthy reply. It’s not as if Godzilla just made one or two points that needed response. Godzilla is obviously well researched in his comments, all be it, I think he is wrong in many of the conclusions he makes as well as his sources.

That being said, I appreciate his effort. He at least tries & make the case unlike many here who just do the “oh yea, well your mother wears army boots” type of comments that have become so infamous here.

Not really sure the point you’re trying to make here.


2,216 posted on 07/10/2008 4:20:57 PM PDT by Reno232
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To: SkyPilot; Reno232; MHGinTN; Godzilla; Elsie; greyfoxx39; Zakeet; metmom
Good gracious. To even go through one of his posts on this thread is 22 pages in Microsoft Word.

And every word a gem.

There are others on this very thread that are pages, and pages.

Please respond to all of them in detail without writing large posts (this should be funny!

Yes, he is verbose - but he also is all over the map in the cases I have taken the time to to read.

Just responding to the tight, laser beam like focus on an issue I was challenged with, Snicker...

Furhter, I have been reading his posts for months now. Some of his posts took me a very long time to get through, as I attempted to understand him. Sadly, the more I read the more I realized he was not addressing points of fact, but attempting to obscure and obfuscate the issues that were raised.

SOAP - When found to be engaging in a tactic, immediately accuse your opponent of doing it as inoculation against people pointing it out.

Let me give you brilliant (For an anti) thought, If there is no attack, the response will not even exist. If the attack is large, loose and verbose,the response will have to be as well. You want smaller posts post smaller attacks. Go ahead, call a meeting, LOL!

Specifically, I have seen DU respond to a questions such as who was Christ, and go off in completely irrelevant directions with the thread.

I am not responsible for your ability or inability to follow a thread of discussion (pun intended)

To go "point by point" to him would require one engage in the very abhorrent behavior (which I really believe is abuse of posting privileges) that he engages in.

Since the points are set by the attacker... Do you know what the Word Bloviate means?

I can think of no other Freeper on this forum who takes up such significant band with space with posts that are so voluminous that it takes more time to scroll through them as it does to log onto your computer.

You need a faster computer...

Worse, even after pointing out these problems to DU, he laughs, gives "LOLs!", and takes pride in the spam.

LOL! (I aim to please) please note that I am responding point by point as is my habit and that you are in charge of the topic and structure of this post, get it?

Well, there you go - I addressed your complaint. I doubt you will be satisfied, but I weighed that going in.

Funny, the challenge was to specifically point out where I should have been brief instead you decline in your "Good Gracious" sentence to even contemplate such a task. Then you launch off on a bunch of IMHO Bloviation about how I should be blocked from posting because text takes up too much bandwidth. Do you have any idea how much bandwidth Pictures take? (I know, I Know they are hosted somewhere else, but it still slows down people's load speed and scroll speed)

In short, a cursory analysis of your post reveals SOAP in full force, but IMHO your actual response to the challenge is full retreat.
2,217 posted on 07/10/2008 4:34:21 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser; All

Planned to play with my kids for a bit, see ya all later, K?


2,218 posted on 07/10/2008 4:35:11 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Reno232
“oh yea, well your mother wears army boots”

How did you know my mom wears.. Oh, sorry...
2,219 posted on 07/10/2008 4:36:56 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser
And every word a gem.

Spoken like your fellow Mormon, Harry Reid.


2,220 posted on 07/10/2008 4:42:41 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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