Posted on 05/03/2008 4:38:34 PM PDT by NYer
Well, Acts 12 says Herod Agrippa died before the Antioch laying on of hands. Josephus reports he died in A. D. 44. Paul's first missionary journey began between 46-47 A.D. Paul was in Arabia for three years after his conversion and then spent one year at Antioch. Galatians 2 says he went up to Jerusalem after 14 years.
It is impossible for for your scenario to have taken place. Paul was sent out by the church at Antioch before his visit to Jerusalem mentioned in Galatians 2.
“Uh, did you forget Antioch, which Peter DEFINITELY founded??”
Acts 11:19-26, “Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only. And some of them were men of Cyprus and Cyrene, which, when they were come to Antioch, spake unto the Grecians, preaching the Lord Jesus.
21 And the hand of the Lord was with them: and a great number believed, and turned unto the Lord. Then tidings of these things came unto the ears of the church which was in Jerusalem: and they sent forth Barnabas, that he should go as far as Antioch. Who, when he came, and had seen the grace of God, was glad, and exhorted them all, that with purpose of heart they would cleave unto the Lord.
For he was a good man, and full of the Holy Ghost and of faith: and much people was added unto the Lord. Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul: And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.”
I see the persecuted “men of Cyprus and Cyrene”, and Barnabas and Saul, but I don't see Peter mentioned. Where do you find Peter founding the church at Antioch?
“Eden is not the natural state of man.”
Eden is the natural state of created man. We live now in the unnatural state because of the “original sin” of Adam. The reason one considers it “blessed” is comparing it to the state that now obtains.
I don't think so. Whether Peter was something MORE than Pope or not, he was still Pope first. The official list of Popes is good enough for me. Linus I may have been the first to be merely Pope, but he was the second Pope, after Peter.
Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Martin Luther is in a lot of trouble.
Were you one of the group that sat on the jury of the OJ Simpson trial???
Please do not make this personal.
How does that change the fact you were wrong?
Is God only good because He exists in contrast to evil?
We correct you guys so often (with scripture) on this fallacy and I didn't want you to think you beat us down, or finally convinced us of this perversion of scripture by us not mentioning it...
So I thought I'd mention it, again...
History. The FACT of Peter founding the Church of Antioch is well-documented in the historical record, including records from the first century AD. But, as I said, because "...it's not in the Bible...", you'll simply blow off the evidence (which, to me, is rampant intellectual dishonesty).
There are other sources of truth than the Bible, buddy.
Well, that’s your claim anyway.
You are correct...Your church only burned and tortured men, women, children and babies when there was a Protestant bible involved...
So logic is no good, but vacuous bragadocio is OK?
Wrong again. The Church did no such thing. Secular authorities may have, but there was certainly no lack of violence from either side of the “Reformation.”
When that's all you've got...
What do you mean, 'must'??? God blessed all kinds of things and people...Nothing else ever became sinless because of a blessing by God...
Blessed does not mean sinless any more than red means popcorn...
Is the the logic and reasoning God gave you guys as a gift???
“Is God only good because He exists in contrast to evil?”
What has that to do with the question?
So is finding my car keys in the morning...
You guys need to come to grips with a rational, biblical definition of 'blessed'...
Blessed does not mean sinless any more than red means popcorn...
Is the the logic and reasoning God gave you guys as a gift???
Whoops...that teaching is actually rather involved relating to the peculiarities of the greeting by the Angel. I have no doubt you'd never sit through the actual teaching itself, but suffice to say there is justification for it that the poster does not allude to.
No, you need to come to grips with the fact the Bible is not defined by english.
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