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Protestants and Sola Scriptura
Catholic Net ^ | George Sim Johnston

Posted on 05/03/2008 4:38:34 PM PDT by NYer

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To: CautiouslyHopeful
Do you think it’s wise for a Catholic to possess a Protestant bible like the KJV?

Yer absolutely right...Catholics leave your church when they start reading the KJV...Cause they might believe it...

1,121 posted on 05/06/2008 3:51:15 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool
Cause they might believe it...

I will not be misled so.

1,122 posted on 05/06/2008 3:52:27 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: conservativegramma
I quoted you your own catechism which does clearly say that Mary has been 'united' with Christ.

You did.

That makes her a GOD.

Only in your mind.

1,123 posted on 05/06/2008 3:53:30 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: wagglebee
The contention made by some here is that Paul considered the New Testament to be “complete,” I was simply pointing out that this is IMPOSSIBLE.

Paul's ministry to the Gentile church was completed...And his completed epistles are a record of it...

1,124 posted on 05/06/2008 3:55:44 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Apparently the RCC foists this deception off on an unsuspecting laity to further their opinion that Mary is a "co-redeemer" and a "dispensatrix of all grace."

You continue to misrepresent this matter, having been repeatedly corrected.

Of course, you also profess your belief that the Pope is the antichrist.

1,125 posted on 05/06/2008 3:55:46 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: conservativegramma
...the concept of sola scriptura is indeed there...

Nope.

1,126 posted on 05/06/2008 3:56:28 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: conservativegramma
The word 'Trinity' doesn't appear either and we know its there.

To believe in the Trinity is to jettison sola scriptura.

1,127 posted on 05/06/2008 3:57:24 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: conservativegramma
Secondly, the concept of the papacy is not anywhere in the New Testament...

Keys of the Kingdom.

1,128 posted on 05/06/2008 3:58:35 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: conservativegramma; papertyger; Petronski; SoothingDave; Religion Moderator
Thanks so much for affirming your belief that Mary is equal to Christ and therefore God herself. Yep - Goddess worship.

NOBODY has suggested this (though I have no doubt that the anti-Catholic nonsense you peruse falsely assert this); additionally, you have been told ad nauseum that Catholics DO NOT believe this.

Your continued repetition of this falsehood AND the fact that you are ascribing it to others is bordering on bearing false witness (which I presume you believe is wrong).

1,129 posted on 05/06/2008 4:02:39 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Petronski

Feed my sheep.


1,130 posted on 05/06/2008 4:03:08 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Petronski
And you live in la-la land if you can't see that 'united with Christ' elevates her to deity.

United - Adjective - made into or caused to act as a single entity: a united front. (Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.)

Unite - verb - to join, combine, or incorporate so as to form a single whole or unit. (Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.)

United - verb - To bring together so as to form a whole. Adjective - to combine into a single entity (The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company).

You seem to have problems with understanding the English langugage. Either that, or you can't admit this or you have to admit to goddess worship. I suspect its probably the latter.

1,131 posted on 05/06/2008 4:03:14 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Iscool
Paul's ministry to the Gentile church was completed...And his completed epistles are a record of it...

But this IS NOT the New Testament.

1,132 posted on 05/06/2008 4:04:21 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Petronski
To believe in the Trinity is to jettison sola scriptura.

ROFLMBO!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, okay - ROFL.

Keys of the Kingdom

Thanks for affirming non-biblical sources. This of course makes the case FOR sola scriptura as deviating off leads to error. (Error such as mythical keys of the kingdom).....

1,133 posted on 05/06/2008 4:05:39 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Petronski
Don't you understand the crippling paradoxical defect in sola scriptura? It does not appear in Scripture.

It's all over the place just like the Trinity is...It took you church over 300 years to find the Trinity...Your church doesn't want to find Sola Scripture...

Your church tells you what to believe and you do it...

And that brings up an interesting problem...You guys claim that since the Mormons don't believe in the Trinity, they can't be Christians...So I guess that no one in your church, including your church fathers were Christians for the first 3 or 4 hundred years???

1,134 posted on 05/06/2008 4:06:45 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: conservativegramma
u·nit·ed (yū-nī'tĭd)
adj.

1. Combined into a single entity.
2. Concerned with, produced by, or resulting from mutual action.
3. Being in harmony; agreed.


You continue to accuse me of goddess worship even though I have stated that I do not do so. I suggest you look up Exodus 20:16 and remove the plank from your eye.

1,135 posted on 05/06/2008 4:07:44 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: wagglebee
Your continued repetition of this falsehood ....

What falsehood? Its stated in YOUR catechism that Mary is 'united' with Christ and 'Queen of all'. That makes her deity, unless Christ is NOT God, and I don't believe you believe that so it makes her deity. You like Petronski need a dictionary and look up the word united and what it means.

Like I told Petronski, reasoning with you Catholics is like trying to reason with Mormons who refuse to read what their own leaders have SAID (or in this case what their own catechism teaches)......

1,136 posted on 05/06/2008 4:08:44 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Iscool
Your Church doesn't want to find sola scriptura...

The Catholic Church has found sola scriptura...found it to be a false confection of men.

1,137 posted on 05/06/2008 4:09:07 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: conservativegramma
...That makes her deity...

It does not.

1,138 posted on 05/06/2008 4:09:50 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: roamer_1
It was I that had made mention thereof. That does not mean that children don't sin, but that their sins are not held against them. That is a significant difference.

Yes, it is. And, frankly, I think you are wrong.

Children do not sin because they lack the capacity to choose right from wrong.

You are saying that if a toddler knocks the gear shift out of place and the family car runs over his mother, that the toddler sinned, but it won't be held against him. That's just wrong.

Toddlers don't understand and their actions are not sinful. Sin is about the will, not the actions.

1,139 posted on 05/06/2008 4:10:32 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Petronski
Keys of the Kingdom.

Where's that Kingdom right now???

1,140 posted on 05/06/2008 4:10:46 PM PDT by Iscool
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