Posted on 04/15/2008 11:26:25 AM PDT by marshmallow
If all I had was various folks personal interpretations of Scripture, there'd be no way to know. That's how I know that personal interpretation of Scripture is not what God intended.
Instead, I know that He founded one visible Church, and that singular Church is the singular "pillar and ground of truth".
I believe that Church to be what is today known as the Catholic (Greek: "for all places and times") Church. I find only one other visible entity that can make a plausible claim to be God's Church (the Orthodox Church), and my reading of history doesn't support their claim. The various protestant, baptist, etc. communities do not (IMO) have anything remotely resembling a plausible claim to be God's Church.
So, I know that if I consult with God's Church in cases of doubt or dispute, I will find the Truth there.
But that is not Catholic teaching. You are bearing false witness. Yet again.
That website is a bad joke. It’s filled with enough anti-Catholic disinformation to be, well, YOUR website.
That very well may the case for some, but as in the days of the Lord walking the Earth, I think most will end up worshiping the image - miracle or not.
>>Which popes practiced idolatry? I’m not aware of any. Some practiced adultery (and got to be quite good at it), but that’s not the same thing<<
I figured that poster wouldn’t get it anyway.
But you’re right on the money.
>>The article is not about the illness or the people suffering - it’s all about the mysterious, mystical image. I’ll buy you a cup of coffee if, in 3 days, there is not a shrine to the image at that hospital, with ignorant people burning candles, posting pictures, and saying prayers to the image.<<
So when it’s reposted on FR, THEN talk about it.
You jumped the gun and basically had a problem with a man who thought Jesus was reminding him that He had control of the situation with the man’s dying wife.
Like I said, your heart is hard.
And I am pointing out to you that what you are doing is not Christian.
Not simply, I trust, because we Orthodoxers are a bit skeptical about these simulacra of Christ or Panagia in stains on bridge abutments, greasy pizza pans, grilled cheese sandwiches or delaminating safety glass, AB. :)
yes
This is not a tortilla, a grilled cheese sandwich, a Cheeto, a piece of plywood or laundry door, a paint/varnish/water stain, a reflection off an iron, a beach pebble, a blob of chocolate, or an overpass.
Do you really think that would happen in a Seventh Day Adventist Hospital?
Maybe He's not crying. Maybe one of His disciples told a joke, and Jesus laughed so hard that He cried. Or maybe Jesus has developed allergies to the local flora in Orlando.
Then again, maybe the guy who looked at that image and realized that Jesus is really in charge, and his problems with his dying wife are not as big as what Jesus Himself went through, got the message Our Lord was sending.
God works in mysterious ways.
You know nothing about my heart, unless you be an agent from the devil. No man knows the heart of another - much less considering we’ve not met. Sheesh!
Telling Truth is the MOST Christian thing one can do.
Such things have happened in all kinds of places. Seventh Day folks have their own issues. Perhaps they would picket if it didn’t happen on Saturday. Perhaps they would rail if it did. Only the Shadow knows for sure!
None of which explains this strange, stubborn insistence that Jesus must be crying and not laughing. Okay, I give up - Jesus is crying. Maybe Mary made Him feel guilty, for not healing the man's wife earlier.
Most of the "insisting" on this thread is coming from one direction. It's coming from those who believe that this can't possibly be an image of Jesus and are determined to impose that view.
I don't see too many arguing that this is definitely Jesus and he is definitely crying. That's certainly how it appears to some people but why get bent out of shape if that's what they think? Leave 'em be.
It's an image. To some people it looks like Jesus.
It's amazing the degree to which some feel threatened by that idea.
Five'll getcha ten that the glass panel is on eBay before the end of the month. Double or nothing if someone can identify the exact artwork behind the image by the end of spring.
I'm not scared of construction materials allegedly bearing supernatural images. But I've been assaulted by those who think that I should be.
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