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Book on Mary turns runaway youngster immersed in drugs and crime into a priest
Visions of Jesus ^ | February 2004

Posted on 04/01/2008 4:23:02 PM PDT by NYer

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To: stevio

Satan desires to destroy this man’s testimony to the Grace of God and repentance of sins. I’m sure that the Enemy would do anything to belittle him and his preaching of the Gospel.


41 posted on 04/02/2008 6:55:12 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Both titles are blasphemous fiction. I pray for Catholics to have the spiritual discernment to realize Jesus Christ is our the only Redeemer and God the only dispenser of grace. For Bible-believing Christians, that is basic Christianity 101, and Rome flunks the course.

Well thanks for clearing that up for us, Doc.

We likewise pray for "Bible-believing Christians" that they might come to understand the Scriptures in which they so fervently profess belief. In particular we pray that they come to know the intimacy between Jesus and His Mother and to realize that Jesus is not threatened by nor jealous of the regard in which we hold His Mother.

Indeed it adds a depth and richness to the story of salvation on which so many miss out.

42 posted on 04/02/2008 6:56:14 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: Quix
"What am I missing?"

A sense of decency.

43 posted on 04/02/2008 7:04:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: ArrogantBustard

Excellent comments!


45 posted on 04/02/2008 8:22:51 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
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To: Admin Moderator

I am thanking you.


46 posted on 04/02/2008 8:26:41 AM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words:"It's too late"))
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To: notaliberal

Thanks, done.


47 posted on 04/02/2008 8:50:06 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I'm sorry? FCC? Florida Chess Championship? Formation in Christian Chastity? Federal Communications Commission?

Please enlighten me.

48 posted on 04/02/2008 8:50:11 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Mammalia Primatia Hominidae Homo sapiens. Still working on the "sapiens" part.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

FCC?

Frankie’s Calvinist Conundrums.


49 posted on 04/02/2008 8:58:22 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; NYer

Mark 3:32-35 confirms the Blessed Virgin Mary’s identification witht he holy Mother Church and therefore scripturally proves her to be a co-redeemer and dispensatrix of all grace, “doctor”.

Thinkest thou that thou understandest what thou quotest?


50 posted on 04/02/2008 8:58:51 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Favorite Crawfish Crunchies?


51 posted on 04/02/2008 9:07:16 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
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To: OpusatFR; Tax-chick

Funky Cool Classix (a mastermix)


52 posted on 04/02/2008 9:20:40 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Mammalia Primatia Hominidae Homo sapiens. Still working on the "sapiens" part.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; stevio; marshmallow
To "honor" Mary does not include blasphemously regarding her as a "co-redeemer" and a "dispensatrix of all grace."

Here is a short explanation what Co-Redemptrix means. Just as Christians are called explicitly in Scripture "co-workers" with God (1 Cor 3:9-15 also 2 Cor 5:18-6:2 -- "for we are God's fellow workers" NIV, the context of both passages is salvation, reconciliation, redemption, etc), so Mary being the first believing Christian and Mother of God the Son, is preeminantly the "co-worker" with God in salvation, since she cooperated with God in bringing the divine Son of God into the world. As McCarthy himself notices in the Catechism of the Catholic Church: "By pronouncing her 'fiat" at the Annunciation and giving her consent to the Incarnation, Mary was already collaborating with the whole work her Son was to accomplish" (Catechism 973).

That is a simple fact of the Gospel message. Mary brought Jesus into the world, and Jesus brought salvation and redemption to the world, both at the Incarnation (Luke 1:26ff; John 1:1,14,29; 1 John 4:9ff; 3:5; etc) and by his death on the cross (Rom 5: 8ff; Col 2:13ff; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 2:2; etc). As the writer to the Hebrews tells us, the BODY of Jesus Christ was the instrument of the Redemption (Hebrews 10:10). In this most important sense of giving flesh to the Savior in the Incarnation, Mary cooperated with God in the redemption of the world and is therefore "Co-Redemptrix" of the human race. No Mary, No Jesus just as Know Mary, Know Jesus. Without Mary there is no Incarnation and therefore no salvation, and knowing and loving the Blessed Mother brings us ever closer to her Son. One of the primary lay spokesman for the "Vox Populi" Co-Redemptrix movement in the Catholic Church further explains:

"When the Church calls Mary the 'Co-Redemptrix,' she means that Mary uniquely participated in the Redemption of humanity with her Son Jesus Christ, although in a completely subordinate and dependent manner to that of her Son. Mary participated in Jesus' reconciliation of the human family with God like no other created person...How did the Mother of Jesus do this? First of all, Mary participated in Redemption by accepting the invitation of the angel to become the Mother of God and by giving flesh to the Savior. Early Church Fathers saw the Incarnation and Redemption as one, unified, saving act....and Mary brought the world its Redeemer at the Incarnation...Since the very instrument for the Redemption, the body of Jesus, was given to Him by Mary, the Mother of Jesus clearly played an intimate part in the redeeming of the human race with her Son, far beyond that of any other creature." (Dr. Mark Miravalle, An Introduction to Mary: The Heart of Marian Doctrine and Devotion, page 68-69)

That is the primary meaning of Co-Redemptrix and if you were to attempt to "refute" that teaching, you would be denying the Incarnation of Christ, the most essential doctrine of the historic Christian Faith and thus denying your own "gospel" is in any sense Christian. In fact, many anti-Catholics do just that when denying the title Theotokos (Mother of God) to Mary, or at least many of them have a very confused Christology.

53 posted on 04/02/2008 9:41:50 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

He is both (a) a real person and (b) an actual priest.


54 posted on 04/02/2008 9:44:03 AM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
That's like comparing the encyclopedia to Grimm's fairy tales.

Let's not bring Calvinism into this.

55 posted on 04/02/2008 9:46:44 AM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: Petronski
Let's not bring Calvinism into this.

LOL!

56 posted on 04/02/2008 9:49:06 AM PDT by Hacksaw (I support the tiger.)
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To: OpusatFR
Frankie’s Calvinist Conundrums.

Ferengi Commerce Commision.

57 posted on 04/02/2008 9:52:30 AM PDT by Hacksaw (I support the tiger.)
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To: Hacksaw

Fleet Command Center.

(That’s good for Benedict launching all the fishers of men)


58 posted on 04/02/2008 9:54:47 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: NYer; Dr. Eckleburg
"all I knew was that I was madly in love with God and Our Savior....I was crying tears of joy. I was almost laughing. I knew that this Jesus died for me and loved me."

Matthew 7:16-18
By their fruit you will know them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
Likewise every good tree bears good fruit,
but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
A good tree cannot bear bad fruit,
and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.

1 Corinthians 12:3
No one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.

(And NYer, thank you for your patient and excellent explanations. Anyone truly devoted tot he truth would pay heed to them.)

I rest my case.

59 posted on 04/02/2008 9:56:59 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Mammalia Primatia Hominidae Homo sapiens. Still working on the "sapiens" part.)
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To: Petronski

“Let’s not bring Calvinism into this.”

Definitely two snaps.


60 posted on 04/02/2008 9:57:16 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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