Book on Mary turns runaway youngster immersed in drugs and crime into a priest

Visions of Jesus ^ | February 2004

[Judith Anne]

I don't disagree with the dictionary definition. I disagree with the RCC which states time and again that Mary helps to reconciles sinners to God.

Well then I can see why you have yourself all in a lather. This priest's story pretty much makes your disagreement look silly.

[al_c]

I see your point. I guess each of us just read it differently.

Hm, wasn’t he ALREADY God? Or did he become God after Mary bore him?

I took it as irishtenor was questioning Dr. E's statement, you took it as questioning Catholic beliefs.

[Petronski]

This assertion in no wise implies that Mary acts apart from Christ, let alone would contravene the will of God. Our Lady's mediation manifests the tenderness of her maternal heart.

You quoted the words, so I assume you saw them.

But you did not understand them (or you pretend such).

[irishtenor]

I NEVER call chicks chicks :>)

[Mad Dawg]

we all need to get along. We have differing opinions on certain beliefs and traditions, but we all love the same God.

You radical!

[Invincibly Ignorant]

I NEVER call chicks chicks :>)

I'm quite certain Jack Chick's wife is a "chick". :-)

[Mrs. Don-o]

Again, a decent Christian response.

Don’t you realize this is a Free Republic Religion thread?

What’re you trying to do here? Start a trend?

(Grateful grin.)

[Dr. Eckleburg]

What's not to understand?

"Go to Jesus through Mary."

"Her children."

"She continues unceasingly to reconcile man to God"

Clear as a bell. And thoroughly repudiated by God's word.

Flee from it.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

lol.

[Mad Dawg]

Well, yeah, but I’m right, because, well, because I just am, that’s all.

[Judith Anne]

So, the priest who is the subject of the OP’s story doesn’t have a valid conversion?

[al_c]

With that post, you've completely changed the topic. That's not at all what we're discussing here. You questioned the phrase "Mother of God," I explained why that phrase came about using the "one mediator" argument, I defined mediator to show a difference between prayer and mediation.

I ask again ... is praying the same as mediation?

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But since you did post this, I'll play along for a moment ... especially since this first one seems to be somewhat of a personal attack.

Maybe it's a good sign you're uncomfortable with the teachings of the RCC. I encourage you to keep reading Scripture and learn the truth.

Not uncomfortable at all. In fact ... the more I read the bible, the more I understand my faith.

Did Abraham benefit from something that passed through the hands of Mary?

Everyone throughout all ages has benefited from that which passed through Mary's womb ... Jesus Christ.

[irishtenor]

Well, it was worth a try:>)

Now for some other radical thoughts
1. Global warming is wrong
2. Nearly everybody hates the Yankees
3. I put mustard in my tuna sandwich instead of mayo.

There, refute those :>)

[ArrogantBustard]

3. I put mustard in my tuna sandwich instead of mayo.

Wow ... In days of old, folks were hanged, drawn and quartered, and burned at the stake for that.

[al_c]

Well, yeah, but I’m right, because, well, because I just am, that’s all.

I've pinged a friend who may question that claim. ;o)

[irishtenor]

Oh, I’ve had my days. But it is better to discuss that to call names. Name calling means you have lost the argument :>)

I prefer discussions on differing beliefs that don’t resort to calling another’s beliefs heretical just because you have no other case.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Allow me a question. If I ask you to pray for me, am I asking you to be my mediator? Is praying the same as mediation?

Good question. Scripture tells us we are edified by the prayers of our fellow believers. And no, prayers are not necessarily the same as mediation.

Regardless of the word used, nowhere in Scripture are we told to pray to dead people for intercession, for mediation, for edification, for fellowship, for anything. Nada. (And yes, I know those in heaven are not "dead" but alive in Christ.)

Even so, nowhere in Scripture are we told to pray to anyone other than the Triune God of all creation. On the contrary, we are told time and again not to pray to any part of the creation.

The Jews had this right -- pray to God alone. Rome continues to be in error regarding this Scriptural truth.

[Invincibly Ignorant]

I could've said something about your invincible ignorance ... but I restrained myself. ;o)

That's ok. Your basketball picks this past weekend wreaked of invincible ignorance. :-)

[irishtenor]

I boldly make my stand, don’t try and change me :>)

Actually, I do it to reduce the fat, and I like the taste of mustard. Stone ground, not the bright yellow stuff :>)