Conclusion from Peru and Mexico

email from Randall Easter | 25 January 2008 | Randall Easter

[Manfred the Wonder Dawg]

It’s dangerous to use Scripture as an example for something it is not proclaiming, even if other Scripture makes the very point you are touting. If we do this - ignoring the context and, hence, the clear meaning - we are vulnerable to being led astray by similar tactics and/or being perceived as deceptive by those we seek to convince.

There is plenty of Scripture showing that Christ seeks out sinners and came to cleanse them. Use those with abandon in proclaiming that message.

[WileyPink]

Don’t ever presume to read my mind, and don’t ever presume to think I “oppose Scripture!”

I don't presume anything.

Why are you so angry that you don't want other's opinions to be heard when those opinions are based on Scripture.
If that is not why you oppose the other opinions, then why? I defend ALL of my arguments using Scripture and try to do so with meekness and fear. (1Peter 3:15)

By the way, don't be so angry...or am I being presumptuous?

In Christ...Alone!

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you oh so very much for your encouragements, dear brother in Christ!

[Lord_Calvinus]

***As a good Baptist, I demand the whole congregation have a say!***

Well, if we can ever get the darn think out of committee, we can move it to the floor for a vote. Given that we don’t even have a committee, yet, it might take a while. I’m sure there will be at least 3 objections from the congretation concerning the rules for the formation of the committee, which will require a rules advisory committee be formed to settle those disputes before we can proceed.

Do you see the wisdom we gave the Founding Fathers on the Presbyterian form of government we gave the US?

[Religion Moderator]

Let us try to keep this thread alive.

Everyone: Discuss the issues all you want, but do NOT make it personal.

[Pyro7480]

Why are you so angry that you don't want other's opinions to be heard when those opinions are based on Scripture.

How are you so sure that's my motivation? Just because I'm Catholic?

[reagandemocrat]

Where’s Mad Dawg?

[Running On Empty]

Thanks for your brother and may God bless him, sandyeggo

And I would be willing to bet that he is so busy that even if he knew FR religion forum existed, he wouldn’t take time out to be on it.

I have had the privilege of knowing about 10 missionary priests very well. I have visited in their mission areas with them and been in the company of the people they serve. It has been a truly humbling experience—not only to see the dedication of these priest 24/7 but also to see the people they serve.

[ScubieNuc]

It’s dangerous to use Scripture as an example for something it is not proclaiming, even if other Scripture makes the very point you are touting.

Doesn't Scripture proclaim many differnt things in the same text? What I mean is, look at Jesus talking to Nicodemus. The primary message is to a certain Pharisee asking Jesus a question (John chapter 3) and yet we read that as though Jesus is also talking to us.

In the same manner, Revelations 3 is talking about a church in it's primary message. However, that message is carried forward today in many churches telling individuals that Jesus wants to have a personal relationship with them.

I agree with you that context should be examined and questioned, but I disagree with you that only some of scripture is good for evangelism.

2Timothy 3:14-17 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned [them];

And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

[MarkBsnr]

***You’re still having trouble with the question, Mark.
What is the Gospel?

We all know there are four books written by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John that are called “The Gospels.”

What is “the Gospel?”***

Let’s see now, how many times have I posted what the summary of the Gospel of Jesus is? 6? 7? I supppose that I need to seek a new means of communication since English just isn’t doing it.

I have also repeated the impoverished and mean Reformed summary several times as well. Should I repost it once more?

[ScubieNuc]

We don't either.

List, side by side, the Scripture that contradicts infant baptism next to the sources that supposedly support infant baptism. What you will find on the support side, loads of 'early Church father' quotes.

You'll find the same thing on topics such as "Mary without sin", "praying to saints", "praying for the dead", "transubstantiation", "Mary saves", "Mary intercedes", "Salvation through the Catholic church", "Pope infalible", etc., etc..

When your beliefs or doctrines are supported more by 'writtings of early Church fathers' then the Scriptures, you are at least making them equal to Scripture, if not elevating them to be more important then Scripture.

[WileyPink]

Mr/Ms RM, May I ask why my comment #753 was removed? There was nothing offensive or personal in it. I was trying to lighten the tone with a little humor. Is that now not allowed with some people?

[trisham]

Not Mad Dawg?

[Religion Moderator]

Terms such as “rude” - even when spoken in jest - on a thread like this where so many are already upset, are apt to ignite a flame war.

[Religion Moderator]

The same is true of the word "asinine."

Both of you, stop posting to each other on this thread.