Posted on 01/27/2008 7:56:14 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg
What makes you think there's a general failure to realize?
Thanks thanks.
Just seems obvious to this sociologist.
Sorry, I don’t see any good reason to answer that. Seriously. I’m studying, not conversing.
LOL.
I don’t consider that a cancer . . . though anything can be turned into one.
It has been my observation that few disciples carry on very well in the clothes & shoes of the founder.
I think Kenneth Hagin’s son is a very poor example of his dad’s values and priorities.
If I recall correctly, Quix came out of the closet on the occasion of someone making an analogy (no pun intended) of his intransigence resembling that of the Sodomites, or modern homosexuals...I can't remember which.
technically “reference”. We all do it somewhat.
Doesn’t get talked about often.
And behaviors consistent with the opposite seem to be well over lots of lines in lots of contexts in all groups of all flavors virtually all the time.
I know you've probably gotten ten posts by now that "they're really not dead", but I wonder if this is as big in the EOC? I know they aren't as militant about adoring Mary.
don’t forget - this is where my learning runs out - to note the persistence in incorrect spelling.
Really?
LOL.
I don’t recall that.
But I suppose I should clear it up.
Yeah, I had a few childhood experiences. Thankfully, has not been my choice or lifestyle.
Does that help?
Come on! I think one owes it to the people on this thread to define an abbreviation or other obscure reference one brings in. Is it pejorative to non-RCC folk?
BTW, here’s a post from Randall that doesn’t mention Catholics! - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1961570/posts
Nothing's perfect but Christ.
However, the closer a church adheres to the written word of God, the more confidence that church and its members may have that it is being led by the will and purpose of God by the gift the Holy Spirit.
(Please note the chapter on "the church" is listed 25th out of 33)
II. The visible Church, which is also catholic or universal under the Gospel (not confined to one nation, as before under the law), consists of all those throughout the world that profess the true religion;[2] and of their children:[3] and is the kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ,[4] the house and family of God,[5] out of which there is no ordinary possibility of salvation.[6] III. Unto this catholic visible Church Christ has given the ministry, oracles, and ordinances of God, for the gathering and perfecting of the saints, in this life, to the end of the world: and does, by His own presence and Spirit, according to His promise, make them effectual thereunto.[7] IV. This catholic Church has been sometimes more, sometimes less visible.[8] And particular Churches, which are members thereof, are more or less pure, according as the doctrine of the Gospel is taught and embraced, ordinances administered, and public worship performed more or less purely in them.[9] V. The purest Churches under heaven are subject both to mixture and error;[10] and some have so degenerated, as to become no Churches of Christ, but synagogues of Satan.[11] Nevertheless, there shall be always a Church on earth to worship God according to His will.[12] VI. There is no other head of the Church but the Lord Jesus Christ.[13] Nor can the Pope of Rome, in any sense, be head thereof; but is that Antichrist, that man of sin, and son of perdition, that exalts himself, in the Church, against Christ and all that is called God.[14]
Of the Church
I. The catholic or universal Church, which is invisible, consists of the whole number of the elect, that have been, are, or shall be gathered into one, under Christ the Head thereof; and is the spouse, the body, the fulness of Him that fills all in all.[1]
As usual, all footnotes denotes Scriptural proofs found at the provided site.
Those saints in heaven - except for Enoch & Elijah - have died the first death. That’s what’s meant by the reference to “praying to dead human beings”. Saints in heaven are alive in spirit, awaiting the glorious resurrection of their new bodies.
I believe that the RC reps are well aware of that.
They just like some shred of a balsa wood toothpic to build another edifice of rationalizations on.
Wow, isn't he the guy that wrote "Godliness is Profitable?"
That kid MUST be a real piece of work.
Dr.E: Christ said, "Be not afraid; only believe." (Mark 5:36)
FWIW, the answer is YES a thousand times YES any assembly that teaches otherwise run away from as fast as you can.
John 3:18 He who believes in Him is not condemned...
You may be a perfectly irenic and reasonable brother in the Lord. I don't know one way or the other and truly do not have an opinion.
But I've seen enough really awful stuff here to discourage anything like frank participation on my part. I am simply no longer interested in discussing anything with anybody whose opening conversational move is to call me an idolater. But people who think that's a great conversation starter ARE worthy of study.
That the person who does that says something nasty -- or nice, for that matter -- about anybody else doesn't mitigate the problem.
Anyone with half a wit to rub together knows that idolatry is the root and fruit of pride and, since it involves breaking the first commandment is rightly considered the first sin. That in itself does not provide a justification for picking fights.
That somebody has an obsession about my faith does not impose a moral obligation on me to make myself his victim.
YMMV
Incidentally, I can’t help noting that we have the same last name. You think we might be cousins?
He probably does an above average job for a son.
I just think that his humility doesn’t approach that of his Dad’s. consequently . . .
Believing the chair will hold you up is one thing, actually sitting in it is yet another, do both and you have real belief in the seating power of the chair:)
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