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Mormonism in Evangelical Voter Guide (Dobson)
The Washington Compostt ^ | January 25, 2008 | RACHEL ZOLL

Posted on 01/26/2008 10:16:38 AM PST by HokieMom

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To: XeniaSt
The "no religious test" clause of the United States Constitution is found in Article VI, section 3, and states that:...

This clause applies to and limits the power of the Federal Government - it DOES NOT apply to or limit the power of individual voters.

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty ... of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.
John Jay, first Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, 1816

If a non-Christian (e.g., Thuggee, Muslim, Mormon, etc.) manages to win an election for Federal office, Article VI does mean that he will assume that office. 

However, as an individual voter, I still have the freedom to do what I can to prevent such an outcome. 

The leadership of Focus on the Family also has that same freedom.

Only an anti-Christian bigot would deny anyone that freedom.

21 posted on 01/26/2008 4:04:56 PM PST by Celtman (It's never right to do wrong to do right.)
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To: HokieMom

I was a Fred supporter who has been looking around to decide who to support. I’ve been pretty much an ‘anyone but Rudy’ guy since Fred withdrew.

Given the level of hatred evidenced by the Mitt supporters on this thread toward evangelicals, it’s pretty obvious that they aren’t interested in the support of Trinitarians.


22 posted on 01/26/2008 4:05:46 PM PST by PAR35
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To: counterpunch
But these sick bastards will flagrantly lie about that in order to advance their own personal jihad against Mormons.

Sounds like more than a few FR posters.

23 posted on 01/26/2008 4:07:23 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: PAR35
You’re right. The vitriol is over the top.
24 posted on 01/26/2008 4:12:10 PM PST by HokieMom
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To: Celtman
If a non-Christian (e.g., Thuggee, Muslim, Mormon, etc.) manages to win an election for Federal office, Article VI does mean that he will assume that office.

However, as an individual voter, I still have the freedom to do what I can to prevent such an outcome.

The leadership of Focus on the Family also has that same freedom.

Only an anti-Christian bigot would deny anyone that freedom.

You have the right to do whatever you please.

The only one you have to answer to is the creator of the universe:

YHvH

b'SHEM Yah'shua
25 posted on 01/26/2008 4:26:27 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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26 posted on 01/26/2008 5:04:54 PM PST by TheDon
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To: PAR35

I think you’ve got that backwards.
And BTW, I’m a former FredHead who is anyone but Huckabee.
And I hate liars.


27 posted on 01/26/2008 7:02:43 PM PST by counterpunch (Mike Huckabee — The Religious Wrong)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Are you saying that Mitt Romney never “acknowledged Mormonism is not a Christian faith,” ????????????
Uh, DUH.
That is exactly what we're saying.
Romney said Mormonism is a Christian faith.
Dobson and his group of bigots are now blatantly lying about that and saying the opposite.
Just like these religious bigots said Fred Thompson wasn't a Christian.
Bigots and liars, that's all Focus on the Family is.
They let themselves be known by their deeds.
 
28 posted on 01/26/2008 7:09:57 PM PST by counterpunch (Mike Huckabee — The Religious Wrong)
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To: counterpunch

Before I hit the abuse button on you, I’ll give you a chance to clarify that comment.


29 posted on 01/26/2008 7:27:47 PM PST by PAR35
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To: XeniaSt
The only one you have to answer to is the creator of the universe:

I know what you are implying, however, I do not believe the creator of the universe, God, would have anything negative to say to to a Christian who chose not to vote for a Mormon based on his religion alone.

If you can find any scriptural reference that can prove otherwise I would be happy to see it?
30 posted on 01/26/2008 7:33:48 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: PAR35

I have made the statement over and over and I will gladly make it again:
Dobson and his Focus on the Family are nothing but liars, claiming that Mitt Romney agrees with their view that Mormons aren’t Christians.
Mitt Romney didn’t say that and would never say that, and they know it.
They aren’t merely “wrong” on the issue, they are liars of Clintonian proportions.
They know what Mitt says, and yet they lie about it to advance their bigotry.
How stupid do they think people are, that Mitt Romney would actually be out there parroting their brand of bigotry against his own religion?
Get real.


31 posted on 01/26/2008 7:34:39 PM PST by counterpunch (Mike Huckabee — The Religious Wrong)
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To: counterpunch
Dobson and his group of bigots are now blatantly lying about that and saying the opposite.
Just like these religious bigots said Fred Thompson wasn't a Christian.
Bigots and liars, that's all Focus on the Family is.
They let themselves be known by their deeds.


Have you been drinking?

You need to cool the rhetoric.
32 posted on 01/26/2008 7:35:15 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Dobson and his band of liars and bigots should have cooled their rhetoric long ago.
And by the look of your comments, I would suggest the same for you.

Tell me, what would God say about someone who voted against a candidate because he is a Jew?
What about someone who voted against a candidate because he was an evangelical?

I’m very interested to know your answer to both of these questions.


33 posted on 01/26/2008 7:40:17 PM PST by counterpunch (Mike Huckabee — The Religious Wrong)
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To: PAR35; counterpunch

Knock it off, guys!


34 posted on 01/26/2008 7:41:07 PM PST by Sen Jack S. Fogbound
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To: HokieMom

“Mitt Romney has “acknowledged Mormonism is not a Christian faith”

No problem with Mormons, but I like this. I was already going to vote for Flipper, but now I can feel better about doing so.


35 posted on 01/26/2008 7:42:15 PM PST by Grunthor (What if Mitt offered the VP slot to Ralph Reed?)
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound; counterpunch

Log in as a mod, and I’ll pay attention to your instruction.

Poster was throwing the term ‘liar’ around in a post to me, and rather than flame him, I asked for a clarification, which he gave, showing that the comment was not directed at me personally.

I might disagree with the poster, but it is clear that he meant no personal offense to me, and with the followup comment, I take none.

I still think the mods should move the thread to the backroom rather than leaving it in Religion.


36 posted on 01/26/2008 8:00:21 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Grunthor

Mitt Romney did no such thing.
Focus on the Family is lying about that.
This is just anti-Mormon propaganda.

What Focus on the Family did is akin to a Neo-Nazi group claiming that Joe Lieberman has “acknowledged that Jews are subhuman.”


37 posted on 01/26/2008 8:05:39 PM PST by counterpunch (Mike Huckabee — The Religious Wrong)
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To: SoConPubbie
Mitt was not my first choice.

Rudy promotes the murder of babies and Gay marriage.

Mcstain is in favor of invasion of our borders and destruction of the Bill Of Rights and the murder of babies .

Huck was driven out of the SBC.

My first choice was Fred


38 posted on 01/26/2008 8:14:29 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: counterpunch; The Ghost of FReepers Past
The Apostle John related that a Christian believes that Jesus Christ is God come into the flesh. No deviations.

That does not mean that an individual Mormon cannot find a faith in Jesus that He is able to credit by His grace, despite Mormonism.

39 posted on 01/26/2008 8:20:21 PM PST by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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To: counterpunch

No one is calling Mormons subhuman.


40 posted on 01/26/2008 8:35:22 PM PST by Grunthor (What if Mitt offered the VP slot to Ralph Reed?)
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