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Single Word Change in Book of Mormon Speaks Volumes
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | November 8, 2007 | Peggy Fletcher Stack

Posted on 11/08/2007 5:23:05 PM PST by Colofornian

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To: Degaston

Ping to you Brother.

Do you have anything to add to this preposterous “change” in Mormon understanding of the Lamanites (American Natives)?


21 posted on 11/08/2007 5:57:23 PM PST by colorcountry ("ever met a gang banger with a hunter safety card?" ~ Ted Nugent)
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To: Old Mountain man

Here, have a little cog dis with that whine.


22 posted on 11/08/2007 6:01:30 PM PST by colorcountry ("ever met a gang banger with a hunter safety card?" ~ Ted Nugent)
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To: Old Mountain man
And you are trying to say that the President of the Church is always supposed to be speaking in his role as God’s Prophet?

(Oh, no. We're sure that whenever a "living prophet" addresses an interpretation of the Book of Mormon, that it's tantamount to no more...oh, to espousing what brand of coffee NOT to drink).

23 posted on 11/08/2007 6:03:15 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

When the Prophet is speaking as the Prophet, he says so. Period. No bravo sierra from you will change that.


24 posted on 11/08/2007 6:06:11 PM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: colorcountry

You guys are funny as all get out. Did they change anything substantive in the BOM? No?

Hmmm . . . looks like you folks are wasting your time again!

Goodnight to one and all!


25 posted on 11/08/2007 6:08:22 PM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Old Mountain man
When the Prophet is speaking as the Prophet, he says so. Period. No bravo sierra from you will change that.

Not true. MOST of what has been said by EVERY LDS "prophet" was never so couched apriori. (Does that mean you get disregard all such unqualified statements? I doubt you'd conclude that).

Even LDS HQ Deseret Publisher claimed that the Journal of Discourses was "inspired" (DP's word, not mine)

26 posted on 11/08/2007 6:13:09 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: colorcountry
The winds of change are blowing through the LDS Church. Perhaps one day, they will truly be one of us and we can call them Christian.

Why pray tell would they want to be one of you?

27 posted on 11/08/2007 6:18:49 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

I don’t know. Why don’t you ask Mitt Romney. He keeps saying he is one of us (Christian that is)


28 posted on 11/08/2007 6:20:54 PM PST by colorcountry ("ever met a gang banger with a hunter safety card?" ~ Ted Nugent)
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To: colorcountry

Cuz I’m asking you.


29 posted on 11/08/2007 6:23:55 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

It appears they are running from their own doctrine as fast as they can. Perhaps they will join you, and become converted to Judaism. They are very good at “law keeping.” They already believe they are adopted descendents of Ephraim and Manassah, so perhaps you are right.

Only God ultimately knows.


30 posted on 11/08/2007 6:28:49 PM PST by colorcountry ("ever met a gang banger with a hunter safety card?" ~ Ted Nugent)
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To: MHGinTN

I learned it’s best to send the page by e-mail to myself. That way I always have a copy, even if it “disappears” as some have over the years.


31 posted on 11/08/2007 6:33:47 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Invincibly Ignorant; colorcountry

***Perhaps they will join you, and become converted to Judaism.***

Maybe then THEY will tell me what sin Israel did that was so bad that God allowed the Holy temple to be destroyed and has not allowed it to be rebuilt in these last 2000 years.
The Jews were expelled from the first holy temple for only seventy years. Why two thousand years.


32 posted on 11/08/2007 7:02:46 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I never thought of that. God made them a promise, I guess they couldn’t keep their end of the bargain. (nor could have I)

Aren’t we blessed in Christ?


33 posted on 11/08/2007 7:08:53 PM PST by colorcountry ("ever met a gang banger with a hunter safety card?" ~ Ted Nugent)
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To: Old Mountain man
Did they change anything substantive in the BOM?

2 Nephi 30:6 in editions of the BOM prior to 1978 reads "... and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a white and delightsome people."

I know that because I have a copy of the 1977 edition in front of me.

Editions of the BOM after 1978 change the word "white" in 2 Nephi 30:6 to "pure".

How do you suppose that happened, since the gold plates have never resurfaced, and no "reformed Egyptian" text exists for the church to retranslate, even if there were any scholars fluent in "reformed Egyptian"?

Could it be that God's perfect revelation had to be edited a bit to conform to a change in church policy regarding the priesthood?

34 posted on 11/08/2007 7:13:48 PM PST by Campion
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Maybe then THEY will tell me what sin Israel did that was so bad that God allowed the Holy temple to be destroyed and has not allowed it to be rebuilt in these last 2000 years.

What do you mean? Of course it's been rebuilt ... there's one in Salt Lake City, one in Ogden, one in Logan, one in Idaho Falls, one in Los Angeles, one in London, one in Washington, DC ...

35 posted on 11/08/2007 7:16:25 PM PST by Campion
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To: Campion

Either that or could it be that in common usage at the time the BOM was translated, the words could be used interchangeably? Did that ever occur to you or are you just looking for something to put us down with?


36 posted on 11/08/2007 7:27:25 PM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Old Mountain man
Either that or could it be that in common usage at the time the BOM was translated, the words could be used interchangeably?

You mean "pure," "white," and "mark of Cain" are just three ways of saying the same thing? Who knew?

Did that ever occur to you or are you just looking for something to put us down with?

You guys stop going after Catholics to convert and I'll stop going after you. Until then, you're fair game.

37 posted on 11/08/2007 7:32:56 PM PST by Campion
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To: Campion

Oh, you are one of those infallability of the Pope papists?


38 posted on 11/08/2007 7:39:01 PM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Colofornian
Ed Milligan, Sioux scholar and anthropologist, had nothing to do with the Mormon faith as far as I know. He did, however, point out when I was his student the very logical observation that the ruins of ancient American civilization were quite advanced from Peru to central Mexico and got far more rudimentary as one moved northward.

While this observation neither "proves" nor "denies" that all native peoples in the Americas came across the Bering land bridge as conventional theory teaches, it would be the first time that civilization becomes more advanced the further away the original settlers move from their point of entry.

Then, there is the strange case of Kennewick Man, a caucasiod skeleton older than the native peoples in the area of present-day Washington State.

Like the so-called "truth" about Gorebal warming, majority vote or concensus does not determine actual scientific fact. A statement that all native peoples to America came across the Bearing Straight is as silly as a claim that none of them did. As Mark Twain said "No generalizaton is worth a damn, including this one."

39 posted on 11/08/2007 7:43:19 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Old Mountain man; Campion

***Either that or could it be that in common usage at the time the BOM was translated, the words could be used interchangeably?***

***You mean “pure,” “white,” and “mark of Cain” are just three ways of saying the same thing? Who knew?***

There is a simple way to get at the origional meaning. I understand Joseph Smith’s “peep stone” is in the posession of the church historians.
Place it in a hat, have the church “prophet” look into it and tell us what appears. Have him wired with a mini cam so the world can see it and all will be cleared up!

Simple, isn’t it!


40 posted on 11/08/2007 7:46:29 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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