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Church of Christ guided by New Testament [Campbellite beliefs discussed in Q&A]
NewsOK ^ | August 11, 2007

Posted on 08/17/2007 11:11:00 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

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To: MarkBsnr

I see you have ran out of scripture and scriptural arguments.

Don’t you find it interesting that “God’s direct representative on earth” have issued so many contradictory doctrines?


181 posted on 08/20/2007 6:03:28 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Bryan24

Such as?

Baptizing without the correct invocation?

Not communing with the Bread and Wine (Body and Blood) of Christ?

Not hearing confessions with a representative of Christ on Earth?

Not laying on hands to recieve the Holy Spirit?

Sorry, I haven’t come across any contradictory doctrines. The authority of the Church to issue doctrine is Biblically pronounced. As opposed to the theologically immature.


182 posted on 08/20/2007 6:19:21 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: sinatorhellary
***Maybe the problem is in your understanding of Paul. You definitely should reconsider your stance that NT writers conflict with one another. If any of them are deemed wrong because they disagree with you, then they all stand in question for the same reason.***

Gal 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as [the gospel] of the circumcision [was] unto Peter;

Gal 2:8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)

Gal 2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we [should go] unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

Tell me, what is the difference between THE GOSPEL OF THE CIRCUMCISION and the GOSPEL OF THE UNCIRCUMCISION?

James required obedience to the Law of Moses and sacrifices and continued temple worship.

Paul did not. Like it or not, here is the first doctrinal denominational difference in the Church.

183 posted on 08/20/2007 6:35:44 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Ever see WILLIS SHAW backwards in your rear view mirror? I have!)
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To: ClancyJ

***Now, if I was a Cambellite, wouldn’t I know it?***

Interesting. When I visited with CofC people many years ago Alexander Campbell was always mentioned in their conversion tapes and films. Even the local CofC preacher is not afraid to call himself a Campbelite.

***Looks like you are attempting to smear the Church of Christ.***

I don’t have to. Their own exclusivness and holier than thou attitude does it for them. I know some don’t mean to have that attitude but others amongst them can’t help walking around with a chip on their shoulder.


184 posted on 08/20/2007 6:43:31 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Ever see WILLIS SHAW backwards in your rear view mirror? I have!)
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To: ClancyJ

You have 66?

Why not 666? Do you not see this an indicator? A coincidence?

If you would, please go online and read the original Christian Bible. If you have the indwelling Holy Spirit, please listen to Him. In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Read His word. Don’t follow opportunists and heretics. Google up what you will; the Lord will lead you to the Christian Bible.


185 posted on 08/20/2007 6:54:21 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“Interesting. When I visited with CofC people many years ago Alexander Campbell was always mentioned in their conversion tapes and films. Even the local CofC preacher is not afraid to call himself a Campbelite.”

I have heard preachers in the Church of Christ for 30}+ years (I’m 43), in at least 10 different states and probably 200+ different preachers. I have NEVER heard a church of Christ preacher call himself a Campbellite.

The guy you heard must have been ‘off the reservation’, so to speak.


186 posted on 08/20/2007 7:18:51 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Bryan24

You really don’t have knowledge of the CoC?

You actually do fit my profile of the average CoC member. You shrink from historical knowledge and you do not consider those who lead your sect to be other than Godly.

Read about Campbell and Stone. Read about Sidney Rigdon and what he took from you guys and gave to the Mormons.

I actually like you people; you tend to be nice guys. But, theologically, you people haven’t even sat on chairs yet.


187 posted on 08/20/2007 7:22:52 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: MarkBsnr

Lol!

You ARE the master of what you think you know. “my profile of the average CoC member”.

What is really funny is you sitting there telling me what I know or don’t know. You have a two-fer going....pompous and pretentious.


188 posted on 08/20/2007 7:29:54 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Bryan24

And I thank you for confirming it.


189 posted on 08/20/2007 8:52:09 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: MarkBsnr

Wasn’t Peter the apostle married? See Matthew 8:14 for information.


190 posted on 08/20/2007 9:12:13 PM PDT by rmp123
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To: rmp123

True. He had a mother in law. It would have been most unfortunate if he had a mother in law and no wife.

Paul was unmarried. Most of the Apostles were unmarried. We believe that dedication to the Church can serve as does a marriage. A person can serve the Bride of Christ as one can serve in a marriage.


191 posted on 08/20/2007 10:42:14 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: Religion Moderator

Does this serve our purposes at Free Republic?

Would you mind closing this infantile discussion down, maybe they can move it to some other board.

There is no edcuation purpose here, just “conservatives” tearing each other down.


192 posted on 08/21/2007 4:55:50 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Mat 26:29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.

Mat 26:29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.

Jesus didn't say juice...He said FRUIT...He said THIS fruit...Jesus was hanging onto a bunch of grapes getting ready to squeeze more juice into the cup...

The only way you can turn it into fermented hooch is to ignore what God says in the scripture...

A little bible study always throws a monkey wrench into some folks theology...

193 posted on 08/21/2007 5:40:41 AM PDT by Iscool (OK, I'm Back...Now what were your other two wishes???)
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To: Dominick; All
I will leave the thread open a little longer to see if the participants will behave.

To all participants: Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal. This thread is on zero tolerance.

194 posted on 08/21/2007 6:25:37 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Iscool

LOL

You get an ‘A’ for creativity!


195 posted on 08/21/2007 1:10:57 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Catholic4Mitt)
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To: MarkBsnr
Not hearing confessions with a representative of Christ on Earth?

There is no Scripture confining hearing confessions to a select few. James 5:16 says:

" Confess [your] faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."

196 posted on 08/21/2007 1:39:05 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: MarkBsnr
Chuldren's and hayseeds' doctrine? That might not be so bad considering what was written in 1 Corinthians 1:25-28:

"Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, [are called]: But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, [yea], and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: That no flesh should glory in his presence."

197 posted on 08/21/2007 1:51:05 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
You get an ‘A’ for creativity!

Great...You get an 'E' for not believing God's word...

198 posted on 08/22/2007 5:26:49 AM PDT by Iscool (OK, I'm Back...Now what were your other two wishes???)
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To: ClancyJ

****It is interesting that you question the authority to decide if a person has done enough or not, yet you believe in a church with a pope, bishops, priests on and on.***

I DO? I’ve never even been to a Catholic service! Over the years I’ve been accused of being an Arminian(follower of Arminus’ doctrines) , Mexican, Mormon, and now a Catholic! What is next!


199 posted on 08/22/2007 7:24:43 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Ever see WILLIS SHAW backwards in your rear view mirror? I have!)
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To: ClancyJ

***Now, if I was a Cambellite, wouldn’t I know it?***

Since you are obviously ignorant of your own church history let me help you out.

http://www.therestorationmovement.com/cmbla.htm

http://www.disciples.org/discover/history/

http://www.bible.acu.edu/crs/doc/cblt.htm

http://www.mun.ca/rels/restmov/people/acampbell.html


200 posted on 08/22/2007 7:38:47 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Ever see WILLIS SHAW backwards in your rear view mirror? I have!)
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