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Will the Pope's Pronouncement Set Ecumenism Back a Hundred Years? (Challenge to Apostolicity)
Progressive Theology ^ | July 07

Posted on 07/22/2007 7:40:38 PM PDT by xzins

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To: MarkBsnr
Thank you so much for sharing your testimony and concerns! And thank you for your encouragements!

Romans 7 and 8 explain the differences we see among Christians who all claim to follow the Holy Spirit. It is a walk. IOW, it takes time to learn to trust Him enough to actually and fully let go of this world. Until that happens, a Christian is apt to cling to this life, i.e. his carnal urgings.

Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. - Phl 2:12

To God be the glory!

2,941 posted on 08/18/2007 9:19:56 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: MarkBsnr
If so, she will face Him in Judgment. After she dies, and not before. We do not believe in secret and wafty lists, neither do we believe in get out of hell free cards

Thank you! Man is appointed to die once and then judgment. Calvinists do not see judgment as salvation. But as "benefits" after salvation (who gets to live in heavenly Hollywood).

2,942 posted on 08/18/2007 9:20:45 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: hosepipe
God bless them anyway..

Amen!

Even so-called heretics are seeking god.. Even atheists are seeking god, that god being themselves.. No getting away from it.. Humans seek god even when they don't want to.. An amazing little known or recognized fact.. What you sacrifice time, resources, or effort for, you worship.. or LOVE.. no matter how briefly..

So very true, dear brother in Christ!

2,943 posted on 08/18/2007 9:22:02 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: kosta50; MarkBsnr; kawaii; wmfights
So, what comes first, FK, faith or the Holy Spirit? Are you more likely to look up and say "There's God!" or does the Holy Spirit "jump" into you and then you say "I believe?"

The latter. Before faith is even possible the Spirit must first change the heart. That is unrequested action on the part of the Spirit. At the point of actual belief, then the Spirit indwells.

Do you believe and ask the Holy spirit to come and dwell inside of you or does he just make Himself comfortable with or without invitation?

When we pray to Jesus to become the Lord of our lives, it is implicit that we are also inviting the Holy Spirit to indwell us, and so He does. So, the Spirit first touches us without invitation, but doesn't indwell until He is invited.

2,944 posted on 08/18/2007 9:23:31 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: wmfights
Thank you so much for your encouragements!
2,945 posted on 08/18/2007 9:28:16 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: P-Marlowe
Thank you so much for your beautiful essay and testimony! And thank you for your encouragements!

I for one am compelled to believe the scripture against all temporal evidence to the contrary. I have found my name on various skeptic and evolution sites as being referred to as one of many irrational fundamentalists on sites like this. I am honored to be so referenced.

Praise God!!!

I too love it when people claim we are so heavenly minded, we're no earthly good. That's the idea!


2,946 posted on 08/18/2007 9:31:24 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg
The Calvin sermon couldn’t explain why anyone on the list, or off, should actually do anything other than what he or she wants.

That's why Luther said he could commit 300 adulteries a day and God would forgive him (if he were elect). He's also famous for his related slogan pecca fortiter (sin boldly!). Don't worry, be happy! Do whatever you heart desires: you are either saved or damned; but you can't know, and can't do anything to change it so what the heck, do as many adulteries as you wish! (Deformed Homily)

2,947 posted on 08/18/2007 9:31:29 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Thank you so much for that beautiful excerpt and for sharing with us your father's words "Don't sweat the small stuff."

If we are lead by the Holy Spirit, we will understand and believe.

So very true.

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. - John 16:13

Praise God!!!

2,948 posted on 08/18/2007 9:38:13 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Seven_0
With scripture, even the small stuff is awesome!

Indeed. Praise God!!!

2,949 posted on 08/18/2007 9:39:56 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: MHGinTN
I am so sorry, dear MHGinTN! Please accept my apology.
2,950 posted on 08/18/2007 9:40:31 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop
Indeed, dearest sister in Christ!
2,951 posted on 08/18/2007 9:42:06 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: MarkBsnr; hosepipe
Let’s sit back, relax and watch the show...the damage of martin Luther: “No sin will separate us from the lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day.”

What a genius! Note that sin is separation from God. But not to worry "Sin is not held against us for Christ’s sake."

LOL! What an idiot!

2,952 posted on 08/18/2007 9:45:48 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Alamo-Girl

I’ve seen your name on those sites too.


2,953 posted on 08/18/2007 9:49:24 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: blue-duncan; P-Marlowe; MarkBsnr; kosta50; Dr. Eckleburg
MarkBsnr: Kosta is correct. Without the Catholic Church, you have no more proof that the Bible is the Word of God than you do for the Koran

I do not need physical "proofs" - the indwelling Spirit authenticates the Scriptures as His own by bringing them alive within.

They are unlike any other manuscript.

The Word of God is alive, is Jesus Christ.

And he [was] clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. - Revelation 19:13


2,954 posted on 08/18/2007 9:50:33 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: P-Marlowe
Wonderful! Praise God!!!
2,955 posted on 08/18/2007 9:51:56 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: kosta50; betty boop; Alamo-Girl
[.. One of them once wrote to me to be careful for hosepipe may not be mortal. Is that true Hose? You are immortal? If so, are you shackled in a body as a "punishment?" ..]

LoL.. A little humor from the Kosman.. Nice.. and creative..

Actually literally every human ever born, was, is now, and will be eternal.. Its a matter of where you(we) will spend your time.. When does eternity start?.. I'm shackled to a body to qualify me.. To qualify me for "gifts".. What gifts?.. I'm told that eye has not seen, nor ear heard, or has entered the heart of man the gifts promised.. I Cor 2;9..

Yes, I'm immortal now, so are you..
Is GOD cool or WHAT?..

2,956 posted on 08/18/2007 9:53:42 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Quix
Thank you oh so very much for your testimony, encouragements and exhortations!

The raw WILL and TRUTH of GOD ALMIGHTY alone will reign.

The rest will be worse than a bad joke. . . . a very deadly bad joke.

All will be reduced to GOD'S ESSENTIALS . . . TO GOD HIMSELF . . . TO GOD ALONE.

The wise are preparing their hearts and spirits by abiding in Him and drinking increasingly deeply of His Spirit NOW. Get Oil. Get extra Oil. Keep the lamps trimmed.

Maranatha, Jesus!

2,957 posted on 08/18/2007 9:56:40 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: hosepipe; betty boop; kosta50
We Christians are alive in a different sense than non-Christians:

For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. - Col 3:3

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Gal 2:20

To me, it is like being anchored to the flesh. When we experience physical death, we'll weigh anchor.

For to me to live [is] Christ, and to die [is] gain. - Phl 1:21

Praise God!!!

2,958 posted on 08/18/2007 10:06:00 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: hosepipe

Which Bible was that?

The ones that were deliberately changed and mutilated for the benefit of Luther et al?


2,959 posted on 08/18/2007 10:06:03 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: hosepipe

In my ignorance, I have happened on a few items of note.

One of which is the Biblical injunction that the Church is the pillar of truth. Another is that there is to be no private interpretation of Scripture.

In my ignorance, I appear to have surpassed many of the faithful posters here.


2,960 posted on 08/18/2007 10:13:51 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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