Posted on 07/22/2007 7:40:38 PM PDT by xzins
You missed p-marlowe’s correction about the JW’s just a few posts later. He had already caught it.
Was that an insult or an acknowledgment of the perspicuity of the scriptures?
Thank you. I didn't get that far. Correction noted.
Paul specifically says that Christ was the source of his Apostleship and not any man.
Martin Luther flunked out of law school and then joined up as a Catholic priest, not content to mess up simply law school he flunked out of history as well and tried to write himself a new religion.
No, satan is still alive and well, and forming new 'churches' every day.
And how do you know that's what anyone said if you don't have the original?
they're just as good as the 'originals' to me...
is that what God wants, a "me church?"
From Martin Marty’s bio of Luther via Wiki:
Hans Luther was ambitious for himself and his family, and was determined to see his eldest son become a lawyer. He sent Martin to Latin schools in Mansfeld, then Magdeburg in 1497, where he attended a school operated by a lay group called the Brethren of the Common Life, and Eisenach in 1498.[14] The three schools focused on the so-called “trivium”: grammar, rhetoric, and logic. Luther later compared his education there to purgatory and hell.[15]
At the age of seventeen in 1501, he entered the University of Erfurt — later describing it as a beerhouse and whorehouse[16] — which saw him woken at four every morning for what Marty describes as “a day of rote learning and often wearying spiritual exercises”[16] He received his master’s degree in 1505.[17]
In accordance with his father’s wishes, he enrolled in law school at the same university that year, but dropped out almost immediately, believing that law represented uncertainty.[17] Marty writes that Luther sought assurances about life, and was drawn to theology and philosophy, expressing particular interest in Aristotle, William of Ockham, and Gabriel Biel.[17]
Except there was no one to witness it. But, be it as it may, Christ was the source of Apostleship of the remianing 12 and even of Judas. So, what's your point?
I am sure you have fine points to make, but paragraph breaks are our freinds. Use them. I can’t read clock posts.
Same article:
Marty writes that Luther sought assurances about life, and was drawn to theology and philosophy, expressing particular interest in Aristotle, William of Ockham, and Gabriel Biel.[17] He was deeply influenced by two tutors, Bartholomäus Arnoldi von Usingen and Jodocus Trutfetter, who taught him to be suspicious of even the greatest thinkers,[17] and to test everything himself by experience.[18] Philosophy proved to be unsatisfying, offering assurance about the use of reason, but none about the importance, for Luther, of loving God. Reason could not lead men to God, he felt, and he developed what Marty describes as a love-hate relationship with Aristotle over the latter’s emphasis on reason.[18] For Luther, reason could be used to question men and institutions, but not God. Human beings could learn about God only through divine revelation, he believed, and Scripture therefore became increasingly important to him.[18]
He decided to leave his studies and become a monk, later attributing his decision to an experience during a thunderstorm on July 2, 1505. A lightning bolt struck near him as he was returning to university after a trip home. Later telling his father he was terrified of death and divine judgment, he cried out, “Help! Saint Anna, I will become a monk!”[19] He came to view his cry for help as a vow he could never break.
He left law school, sold his books, and entered a closed Augustinian monastery in Erfurt on July 17, 1505.[20] One friend blamed the decision on Luther’s sadness over the deaths of two friends. Luther himself seemed saddened by the move, telling those who attended a farewell supper then walked him to the door of the Black Cloister, “This day you see me, and then, not ever again.”[18] His father was furious over what he saw as a waste of Luther’s education.[21]
What is my point?
It was after the resurrection and ascension.
It wasn’t based on Peter and the others drawing straws, either.
Teaching/doctrine of the Apostles as determined by whom?
-A8
Is not God in control?
i’m more inclined to suggest that Martin Luther broke his vow at the temptation of Satan...
As determined by what they wrote. After all, we do have their writings.
Is not God in control?
suggesting that everything happens because God directed it is naive and un-scriptural. The apostles warned that Satan would send wolves in to steal the faithful away and this whiny overweight law school drop out seems like a prime candidate.
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