Thank God For the Magisterium

NCR ^ | June 10, 2007 | Mark Shea

[Dr. Eckleburg]

lol. As is so often the case, the RCC instructs us not to believe in the written word, but in what men say about the written word.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

According to Scripture.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

And changing the font to blue does not change what the words say in black and white.

[Petronski]

As is so often the case, the RCC instructs us not to believe in the written word, but in what men say about the written word.

You have presented another false statement about Roman Catholic Church teaching. (Are you trying to set a record?) It's quite the opposite. We're called to believe what the Bible teaches us, not the private personal interpretation of scripture offered by some stranger on the internet.

[Petronski]

According to Scripture.

As you choose to interpret it.

[Petronski]

Pardon me. I was led to believe (by one of your fellow travelers) that bold italic blue text was somehow more credible or true.

Is that not the case?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

I try to speak only for myself.

[Petronski]

I try to speak only for myself.

I've noticed otherwise.

[trisham]

Not at all. That is a misrepresentation of our respect and love for Mary.

[pjr12345]

DING DING DING!!! WE HAVE A YOPIOS WINNER!!!

The YOPIOS rule is officially triggered. Petronski loses any debate, and is hereby chastised for invoking a false defense that precludes any rational response.

YOPIOS is disingenuous and arbitrary.

[Petronski]

That’s the post that marks your surrender.

You get so sore when you’re forced to recognize that your interpretation of scripture is NOT final.

[pjr12345]

Once YOPIOS is invoked, the invoker has run the course of rational debate. His defense becomes, in the words of Pee Wee Herman, “I know you are, but what am I?!” That is, he sets up a defense that is insurmountable with rationality. From that moment on, the YOPIOS defender can claim that “it’s just your interpretation.”

The reality is that ALL interpretation of Scripture is YOPIOS, including that sanctioned by the RCC.

What’s next with the YOPIOS defense? Will you invoke it if I claim that John 11:35 means that Jesus shed tears? Where is it not (in)valid?

Nope, any invocation of YOPIOS must be taken as a concession of the debate.

[trisham]

What a shame that this thread has taken this turn.

[trisham]

Perhaps as thread host you can do something to salvage this. :)

[trisham]

I would have referred to you as the thread hostess, but then you'd have to wear this:

[Dr. Eckleburg]

As you choose to interpret it.

When the word of God is contradicted as boldly as it is in the RCC regarding the fiction that surrounds Mary, it's not too difficult to understand.

"Therefore shall evil come upon thee; thou shalt not know from whence it riseth: and mischief shall fall upon thee; thou shalt not be able to put it off: and desolation shall come upon thee suddenly, which thou shalt not know.

Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be thou mayest prevail." -- Isaiah 47_11-12

"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" -- 1 Timothy 2:5

[Dr. Eckleburg]

I try to speak only for myself.

I've noticed otherwise.

If all you've got is a nonsensical turn of phrase, then that's all you've got.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

We're called to believe what the Bible teaches us

Praise God. Then believe it.

""For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" -- 1 Timothy 2:5

"Be not afraid; only believe." -- Mark 5:36

[Petronski]

When the word of God is contradicted as boldly as it is in the RCC regarding the fiction that surrounds Mary, it's not too difficult to understand.

You're entitled to interpret the Bible however you wish.

[Petronski]

We're called to believe what the Bible teaches us...

Ah, you're editing my words to twist their meaning again. Here's the whole thing (the part in bold refers to YOUR posts):

We're called to believe what the Bible teaches us, not the private personal interpretation of scripture offered by some stranger on the internet.