SPLIT OPENS IN CHURCH BETWEEN BELIEVERS IN PSYCHOLOGY & THOSE WHO SEE DEMON

Spirit Daily ^ | June 2007 | Michael Brown

[NYer]

Perhaps this go around, we can leave beer out of the discussion.

[AnAmericanMother]

LOL!

Beer is just a little relief from the Catholic-bashing.

Fr. Amorth himself says that most cases presented as possession turn out to be psychological in nature and are referred for professional treatment.

The exorcists aren't denying that psychological cases exist. It's the mental health professionals that are having ten fits because a few cases are beyond (or outside) their ability to cure.

Wonder why they feel so threatened.

[trisham]

I’ll do my best. ;)

[markomalley]

You're no fun anymore!

[Ping-Pong]

That is so funny...Thanks for the laugh

[SaltyJoe]

“It’s the mental health professionals that are having ten fits because a few cases are beyond (or outside) their ability to cure.”

It’s worse than that. A priest, as a spiritual director, will remove much of the business that hired “friends” will do for hundreds of dollars an hour. The real disease will be the addiction patients have to the wacky mental neutering drugs prescribed.

This isn’t the first time “professionals” make a job out of human misery:

Matthew 9
When Jesus arrived at the official’s house and saw the flute players and the crowd who were making a commotion,
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he said, “Go away! The girl is not dead but sleeping.” 16 And they ridiculed him.
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When the crowd was put out, he came and took her by the hand, and the little girl arose.
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And news of this spread throughout all that land.

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Secular psychologists and big pharma will lose a lot of money because people have had enough with pop science and happy candy. We want the Presence of Christ. We need the Sacraments.

[trisham]

We want the Presence of Christ. We need the Sacraments.

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Agreed. The last fifty years or so has been a cruel joke on those who look to the secular mental health community for relief.

[tioga]

I have met Michael Brown - I was very impressed by him. Great speaker as well.

[VOA]

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[RobbyS]

And of course there is the no small matter of psychopaths, truly evil men who cannot be cured by anything in the psychologists’ bag of tricks. Their explanations reveal that many of them do think of human beings as simply beasts and free well as an illusion.

[ears_to_hear]

The secular world and the people who make their living in it prefer not to give spiritual credence to spiritual things.

They like all things to revolve around man, and that includes our disfunction, sin and mental illness. That way men can be the ones to resolve the “problem” .

There is an entire world out there that wants men to be god.

[Ronaldus Magnus]

"I would get scared if I had seminary students who aspired to be exorcists," said one Jesuit, Father Gerald O'Collins, at the Pontifical Gregorian University in Rome. "[The priesthood] should be about helping old and young, administering the sacraments, teaching the Word of God, and not going about exorcising demons."

I once read somewhere that Jesus gave different instructions to his priests.

[NYer]

You're no fun anymore!

Oh come on! I can be lots of fun! It's just that some of those graphics take f-o-r-e-v-e-r to load, especially for us cheap dinosaurs still running ancient iMacs on dial-up. Just posting one thread can take up to an hour because of the graphic intensive hosting sites.

Alright ... have to be honest ... I'm not a beer afficionado. Now, wine ... well, feel free to post pix from the fruit of the vine. I do believe that is what was served at the Last Supper - not Black & Tan ;-)

[trisham]

[NewCenturions]

"Difficult for the psychologists to explain have been the myriad of cases in which strange objects (especially pins) have been vomited; furniture has levitated; holy objects have been thrown or broken; a foreign tongue unknown to the victim is spoken (sometimes an ancient one); there is superhuman strength; and there is a radical aversion to the liturgy."

So how DO psychologists explain these things?

[NYer]

This isn’t the first time “professionals” make a job out of human misery:

There you go again, Joe, quoting Scripture and doing so in a balanced response. Do you realize just how great a gift you have been given! You are truly amazing and I thank you for the great contributions you bring to these threads.

[trisham]

There you go again, Joe, quoting Scripture and doing so in a balanced response. Do you realize just how great a gift you have been given! You are truly amazing and I thank you for the great contributions you bring to these threads.

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I second that!

[NYer]

I have met Michael Brown - I was very impressed by him.

Thank you for posting that! I understand he is also an author.

Mike Brown is a convert and once lived in the RC Diocese of Albany. He is still keenly attuned to the antics that take place here. I visit his web site daily.

[markomalley]

Now, wine ... well, feel free to post pix from the fruit of the vine. I do believe that is what was served at the Last Supper - not Black & Tan ;-)

Alrighty then!

Then feel free to get a wee tad bit of the fruit of the vine! How about some Cabernet Sauvignon from the Colli Orientali district of Friuli Venezia Giulia, the best vines in Italy (and, imo, the world...)