Posted on 04/02/2007 12:18:53 PM PDT by Between the Lines
I'm sorry, with all due respect, but if their believes weren't heretical they wouldn't have left the Church. How can I condone the teaching of error in the name of ecumenism?
It is by speaking kindly and avoiding kneejerk buzzwords that you do it.
And remembering you will not win people’s hearts and minds if you hit them over the head with a 2 by 4. Tone matters extremely in online conversation. You might reinforce your belief that you are right, but you stop people from listening to what you have to say, and therefore you communicate not truth, but attack, even if there is truth in the statements. Because they will not hear it.
By realizing that "error" is a spiritual concept, but a judgment passed by a collective egoic mind.
With all due respect:
1) There's a huge difference between disagreeing with someone's beliefs and misrepresenting those beliefs. The latter is a form of false witness against your neighbour. It's potentially a matter of mortal sin. (No, I'm not accusing you of doing it.)
2) There's a huge difference between refusing to condone the teaching of error and ridiculing a person for passing on what he was taught (and what his parents and grandparents were taught before him), even if we believe that he was taught in error. That, too, is potentially a matter of mortal sin. (Again, I'm not accusing you of doing it.)
I think we've all seen these offenses committed on this forum; I think we all need to examine our consciences.
You nailed it.
Someone always has to come and do it for me. :-)
Thanks for your post because it says it all for me. I don’t listen well to hammers and boards. Must be the Irish in me.
ROE
Correction: ...”error” is NOT a spiritual concept...
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Great thread bump!
Now, if we can live up to your example.
I pray that I can live up to it. Now I am not only accountable to God, but have made myself accountable to the entire FR religion forum. If I lapse, I fear I may be crucified. : )
If I lapse, I fear I may be crucified. : )
Nawwwww,
We sadly don’t bother with crucifixion here.
We draw, quarter, then shred, pulverize, powder and then blow to the four winds . . .
with great self-righteousness, sanctimony, blind bias, haughtiness and hypocrisy.
But I like to think your thread is the beginning of changing all that wholesale.
God bless you for it.
(Feel the Molasses Miasma of Niceness? Pine-Sol will take it off your keyboard, if necessary ...)
And following the baby pictures, the housekeeping tips appear to be followed soon, no doubt, by some interesting recipes!
;-o)
Most particularly, we must hold to account those with whom we normally agree.
It's easy enough to strike out when we are offended, and to counterattack when we see an attack against someone with whom we agree.
But that not good enough. If you love those who love you, what merit is there in that? Even pagans do as much.
What do we do when we see someone we normally agree with launching an unrightous, false witnessing attack? Do we silently chuckle, and enjoy the show? Do we pile on? Or do we chide, rebuke and reprove him: "Brother, that was not well said."
Thank you for those beautiful verses.
Most particularly, we must hold to account those with whom we normally agree.
It's easy enough to strike out when we are offended, and to counterattack when we see an attack against someone with whom we agree.
But that not good enough. If you love those who love you, what merit is there in that? Even pagans do as much.
What do we do when we see someone we normally agree with launching an unrightous, false witnessing attack? Do we silently chuckle, and enjoy the show? Do we pile on? Or do we chide, rebuke and reprove him: "Brother, that was not well said."
Thanks!
Methinks, Dear ?Bro? ?Sis?
that this topic is rich enough in spiritual wealth . . . it would be good and fitting to begin maybe another thread . . . a
DAILY DEVOTIONAL CHRISTIAN CAUCUS with each of these ONE ANOTHERS having it’s day in display and mutual edification and exhortation.
We could each add our sense of what The Lord had said to us in our lives about that particular ONE ANOTHER—or might be currently saying and challenging us to. We could offer our learning experiences and victories and encouragements on that item.
Enough interest in such??? or not?
Maybe it would not be enough different form this thread. But I think it could be—a very ordered, organized exploration and walk through the whole list in a more in-depth, intense fashion that I think would be more spiritually fruitful for all of us.
I guess I see this current thread as a kind of kibbutizing about the topic in a somewhat lighter, shallowER way—good in and of itself but not quite what the devotional could be.
Is the idea too off the wall?
Grilled portobello mushrooms with tomato-garlic-cauliflower sauce. Zero points.
Should I go into detail about the medical situation of the Odin-worshipping feline, or does everyone have his complement of Niceness Nodules for the day already?
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'Tis the season to...nevermind. :)
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Coming soon! The Religion/Cooking forum!
I guess I see this current thread as a kind of kibbutizing about the topic in a somewhat lighter, shallowER waygood in and of itself but not quite what the devotional could be.
Is the idea too off the wall?
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Not at all. I like it. Could we have a little lightheartedness, though? If I promise not to post any more Kiss photos?
It’s sort of like giving Wednesday a pill ... you hide the Niceness Nodules in the tomato sauce, and nobody knows they’re there until it’s too late.
We can also share medical tips, for those who’ve had a Bad Experience with their pet.
“Every thread an Undead Thread,” as it were. We’re all going to die, anyway, so why not dispense lightheaded chirpiness on all and sundry while it is still day?
It’s true, we are being silly. I started it because nobody else was responding, at first :-).
We could have a devotional, and if someone puts “NO SILLINESS” on it, I promise to behave. (Really.)
Isn’t the daily Oswald Chambers thread supposed to be something like that, though ... a general Christian thread where everyone confines himself to edifying posts related to the topic?
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