THE CHURCH'S MAGISTERIUM

ME: what forgeries???? you have made a scandilous accusation against Christ's church and the church fathers, produce the verifiable evidence of forgery or withdraw that statement.

It is obvious from your syntax that you aren't, and I hope you don't pretend to be, a scholar. I'll make it easy on you and include just two examples from the Catholic Encyclopedia.

Digest these articles, refute them in a manner which provides verifiable information, not bombast, and I'll oblige by providing you with a much larger list.

How does that sound to you? Fair.

Pseudo-Isidorian Decretals (False Decretals)

The Donation of Constantine

Perhaps you aren't aware, but the Vatican is built on a Necropolis. And the site where Peter's bones were found was a memorial to St. Peter.

The necropolis on Vatican Hill was a pagan cemetery full of the bones and tombs and memorials of soothsayers and sorcerers. What would the bones of Peter be doing there amongst them? He wouldn't be caught dead there.

The Jews had their own cemeteries and the Christians were buried outside of the city walls, so who would put his remains in amongst those of sorcerers?

The bones of Peter have always been in Jerusalem not on Vatican Hill among the pagans up there. Any memorial with the name Peter on it must be a memorial to Peter the Sorcerer.

Perhaps Peter was shorter than we "legend" has it. Perhaps Peter was younger than "legend" has it. I hope your faith isn't built on Legend.

Now that's funny coming from someone of the RCC whose faith is built upon the "legend of Peter's 25 year bishopric in Rome with upside down crucifixion under Nero" --- none of which happened.

You can't claim that legends are false and can't be used, and then turn around as use legend to build point.

Oh I see --- but you can claim that a legend is true even when the facts say otherwise, and use it to deceive people into worshipping them bones and that magisterium there in the Vatican, and that's not dishonest --- an argument worthy of a Jesuit casuist.

sorry reg, but pointing out documents that are not official dogma or doctrine of the catholic church, does not constitute the church using forgeries.....

the church never used these as any pretext to do anything, they were known forgeries...good grief, can you come up with anything of any substance....???

yeah, that's what i thought too.....

Allow me to quote the item Iscool posted and to which you took so much umbrage.

"There is also verifiable history that shows a lot of your history is bunk...How many of your church father's records are forgeries by your church???"

You might note that no mention of official dogma or doctrine was made. Why do you find it so difficult to address the subect? You admit that the statement by Iscool is 100% correct so you change the subject in a very transparent atempt to dismiss the truth.

"the church never used these as any pretext to do anything..."

They didn't????

The Historical Influence and Use of Forgeries in Promotion of the Doctrine of the Papacy

The church is the people that believe all scripture is true and abide in the truth of the scripture, they are saved sinners and not a denomination of Christianity.

You're partially right, the Church is not a denomination, it is the visible institution, established by Christ to guide all Christians in the truth. Some are grateful for the institution, some choose to establish a parallel institution wile others pretend that the institution is "invisible". One faith, One truth, One Lord. This singular unity is not found in its fullness outside the Church established by Christ.

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