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Rep. Ron Paul: Running to Win in 2008 (Announcing the GRPPL -- Great Ron Paul Ping List)
Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Exploratory Committee ^ | February 3, 2007 | Orthodox Presbyterian

Posted on 02/03/2007 12:49:38 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian

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For Ron Paul, and the Republic!

Stephen Henkel, "OrthodoxPresbyterian"
Oklahoma
ronpaulcalvinist@sbcglobal.net

1 posted on 02/03/2007 12:49:43 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: George W. Bush; Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; RnMomof7; Gamecock; ...
For Ron Paul, and the Republic!

Stephen Henkel, "OrthodoxPresbyterian"
Oklahoma
ronpaulcalvinist@sbcglobal.net

2 posted on 02/03/2007 12:50:39 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

BTTT


3 posted on 02/03/2007 12:50:58 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Forgot your tagline? Click here to have it resent!)
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To: traviskicks

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4 posted on 02/03/2007 12:52:02 PM PST by KoRn
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To: xzins
Okay, here's a "GRPPL" List you can be on. :-)

In fact, you'd be much appreciated.

Best, OP

5 posted on 02/03/2007 12:52:09 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: the_doc; MarMema

FYI


6 posted on 02/03/2007 1:03:24 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

What? Haven't you heard?

I'm an official "almost" arrivee!

:>)

With Paul, as with others (except John McCain whom I reject out of hand), I will look at their positions and vote accordingly in both primary and general.

I'm tilted toward Duncan Hunter and Newt Gingrich at this moment, but Newt's skeletons probably make him unelectable. I've not heard Hunter in front of a live mike, yet, so the jury's still out on him.

Paul is virtually the same, although I don't like isolationism, the one position he has that I find near-sighted. (On the other hand, I don't appreciate willy-nilly meddlesomeness, either.)


7 posted on 02/03/2007 1:44:03 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins
Paul is virtually the same, although I don't like isolationism, the one position he has that I find near-sighted.

Could you further define his position here for me?

Not attempting to be antagonistic....just curious about your opinion of Ron. I haven't followed his career for a few years.

8 posted on 02/03/2007 2:08:43 PM PST by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618

It's been some months, and I didn't save the links, but I did look up Paul's positions on a number of issues. I can't even recall where, but it was clear that he was a classic isolationist. He has every right to be, if he wants, but I think that the best defense is a good offense.

As Barney Fife would say, "Nip it...Nip it in the bud. I'm all for bud-nippin'!"

I'd start with ACU's position points on congressman.


9 posted on 02/03/2007 2:23:21 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Diego1618

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul356.html

The above is Paul in his own words. That way you'll have it uncolored by my opinions.

He calls himself "non-interventionist" rather than "isolationist." He has every right to describe himself. However, that he is answering this is evidence that others see his position as isolationist, and that means I'm not the Lone Ranger on this.


10 posted on 02/03/2007 2:27:15 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins
The above is Paul in his own words.

Yeah....thanks. I believe he is more of a Libertarian than Republican....and it comes across in his statement. Although.... I do enjoy hearing someone in the Republican party acting Constitutional from time to time. It's a rarity nowadays. Unfortunately, it also makes them unelectable.

11 posted on 02/03/2007 2:42:39 PM PST by Diego1618
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
I think Duncan Hunter gives you everything you're looking for. He is a more well-rounded candidate, has more credibility, can get funding from the defense industry, and appears to have more momentum. Why don't we unite around ONE conservative? If you could make a good case that Ron Paul has a better shot at the nomination than Duncan (both are long shots as of 2/3/2007) you should share that. Otherwise, please consider supporting Hunter. Consider:

Hunter introduces legislation to protect unborn

Hunter smacks down CNN on Wolf Blitzer

Hunter on borders: sponsored the very fence that is being extended 700 miles east.

Hunter's Reaganesque views on trade.

Hunter is the ONLY candidate talking about the threat from China

I think you'll like this gentleman! We need to get behind ONE conservative, or else we'll be looking at a Rudy nomination.

12 posted on 02/03/2007 2:44:48 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: xzins; Diego1618
With Paul, as with others (except John McCain whom I reject out of hand), I will look at their positions and vote accordingly in both primary and general. I'm tilted toward Duncan Hunter and Newt Gingrich at this moment... Paul is virtually the same, although I don't like isolationism, the one position he has that I find near-sighted. (On the other hand, I don't appreciate willy-nilly meddlesomeness, either.)

The big problem I can see with Hunter -- other than the fact that I don't believe that the current Iraqi government, dominated as it is by the SCIRI and Al Dawa Parties who attacked our Embassies in 1979 and 1983 and killed 241 US Marines in 1983, is a gang of terrorist thugs who aren't worthy of our continued support -- is his abysmal 56% rating from the National Taxpayer's Union... which can't even be blamed on increased wartime spending, as Hunter's "Taxpayer Friendly" rating has been declining for years.

While I strongly support Hunter's stands opposing abortion and illegal immigration, I don't know how many years the Republic can stand nearly half-Trillion dollar Tax-Borrow-&-Spend budget deficits before we're bankrupt, and Hunter's one of the pork-barrel culprits... as bad as the GOP Congress has been on spending, Hunter's been even worse. His low Taxpayer-Friendly rating is actually bringing the average Republican score in the house down.

Naturally, I'd rather go with the fella who ties for the highest Taxpayer-Friendly score in the House... Rep. Ron Paul. :-)

13 posted on 02/03/2007 2:48:17 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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The big problem I can see with Hunter -- (other than the fact that I don't believe that the current Iraqi government, dominated as it is by the SCIRI and Al Dawa Parties who attacked our Embassies in 1979 and 1983 and killed 241 US Marines in 1983, is a gang of terrorist thugs who aren't worthy of our continued support) -- is his abysmal 56% rating from the National Taxpayer's Union... I don't know how many years the Republic can stand nearly half-Trillion dollar Tax-Borrow-&-Spend budget deficits before we're bankrupt, and Hunter's one of the pork-barrel culprits. As bad as the GOP Congress has been on spending, Hunter's been even worse. His low Taxpayer-Friendly rating is actually bringing the average Republican score in the house down.

I think you'll like this gentleman! We need to get behind ONE conservative, or else we'll be looking at a Rudy nomination.

Naturally, I'd rather go with the fella who ties for the highest Taxpayer-Friendly score in the House... Rep. Ron Paul. :-)

Besides, Ron Paul has been employing die-hard Calvinists in his top ranks for years; we're the "in crowd" in his office. It's time we Calvinists give back some love.

14 posted on 02/03/2007 2:52:45 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Correction... unlike 2004, in 2005 Ron Paul experienced a rare dip in his NTU rating -- he was rated only the second most "Taxpayer Friendly" Representative in the entire House.

However, Rep. Jeff Flake ain't running for Prez, so it's still Ron Paul all the way for me.

15 posted on 02/03/2007 2:57:10 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: Lexinom; OrthodoxPresbyterian; Diego1618
shot at the nomination

That and electability truly are considerations. In the primaries is the time to push for the guy who has the best conservative credentials who is most electable.

Thre are very few reasons that would make me desert the major party candidate opposing the Democrats in the general election.

Pro-life is one of those reasons.

16 posted on 02/03/2007 3:00:02 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
With Hunter you've got a man who will rebuild the military. Hunter opposed the troop increase and had an excellent alternative: redeploy Iraqi forces stationed in docile provinces to Baghdad and other hot spots.

Hunter is the only candidate who seems conscious to the China threat. I've already given money to his campaign, and back him 100% as the best CONSERVATIVE with a chance of winning both the primary and the general.

Still, what you've said about Ron Paul sounds quite attractive. Hunter has won in a few polls, most notably this one. Has Ron Paul shown any signs of momentum? What are his views on the military?

17 posted on 02/03/2007 3:01:50 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: xzins
Pro-life is one of those reasons.

And that's a very real possibility this election cycle. Taxes I'm flexible on - protection of the innocent, no flexibility.

18 posted on 02/03/2007 3:07:12 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom; Dr. Eckleburg; xzins
We need to get behind ONE conservative, or else we'll be looking at a Rudy nomination.

Incidentally, Ron Paul substantially out-raised Hunter in Contributions in the 2006 cycle, garnered 97% of his money from Individual Contributions from all over the country rather than a few corporations in his own district (showing broad national fund-raising ability), had a couple hundred thousand dollars more cash on hand in his last report, and already has a nationwide network of political operatives dating from his 1988 Libertarian run and his national chairmanship of the Republican Liberty Caucus.

Food for thought.

19 posted on 02/03/2007 3:08:58 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; Lexinom; Diego1618; Dr. Eckleburg

I'm open. I've not made up my mind.

I want to hear them.

Personally, I wish they were all required to come out with a LIVE personally taught slide show of one hour length without teleprompter on their major position and vision in the areas of: economics, foreign policy, social issues, etc.... Roughly 5 major areas that they get 20 minutes each on.

That would be far more beneficial to me than all those ignorant media-events falsely called "debates."

I'd like to see 1 of those to see how fast on their feet they were, and I'd like to see their major media nemeses get to hurl questions at them.


20 posted on 02/03/2007 3:15:03 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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