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The Doctrine of Purgatory
http://www.therealpresence.org/archives/Eschatology/Eschatology_006.htm ^ | Unknown | Fr. John A. Hardon, S.J

Posted on 01/29/2007 6:45:51 AM PST by stfassisi

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To: blue-duncan

Yeah, next thing you know, Her Eminence will have us out there milking Bulls [sp.]!


661 posted on 01/30/2007 6:11:39 PM PST by Vicomte13 (L'Chaim!)
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To: blue-duncan; Vicomte13
Man!, you guys are something else. Here I am trying my hardest to keep this a serious thread and just look at you.

You have no idea.


662 posted on 01/30/2007 6:29:47 PM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

That's what you get for putting skimmed dog's milk in your marmot-poop coffee!

How many times do I have to tell ya, use WHOLE dog's milk!


663 posted on 01/30/2007 6:37:44 PM PST by Vicomte13 (L'Chaim!)
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To: Alex Murphy; Vicomte13
When all else fails, old faithful.


664 posted on 01/30/2007 6:41:36 PM PST by blue-duncan
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To: P-Marlowe

Yep. That pretty well sums it up.

It is given unto man once to die, and after this, the judgment.


665 posted on 01/30/2007 7:21:27 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: wagglebee

All of that is well and good. She was mummified. The article agreed with that. I have no problem with some kind of natural mummification going on. I've seen a few documentaries on such things taking place.

It also said they had to put a wax mask on her because of blackening skin and sunken eyes and nose.

That's what it said.


666 posted on 01/30/2007 7:26:38 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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667 posted on 01/30/2007 7:51:05 PM PST by P-Marlowe (What happened to my tagline?)
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To: wagglebee

It is unusual. It is not a miracle.


668 posted on 01/30/2007 7:52:05 PM PST by P-Marlowe (What happened to my tagline?)
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To: Alex Murphy

How in the world do you milk a magnesia?


669 posted on 01/30/2007 7:52:55 PM PST by pjr12345
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To: P-Marlowe; wagglebee

I've won the award before.

BTW, I disagree.

What's unusual is putting a wax mask on a dead lady.


670 posted on 01/30/2007 8:01:22 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Alex Murphy
That brings back a bad memory. Once while on the road I made the mistake of buying milk of Magnesia thinking it was Mylanta.

Long night to say the least.
671 posted on 01/30/2007 8:02:59 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: pjr12345
Do they have a dashboard bobblehead? I love those things!

Ask, and it shall be received. Seek, and it shall be found...

672 posted on 01/30/2007 8:07:58 PM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

Very impressive!

Now if you can get the entire manger scene in bobblehead, I'm confident our catholic compadres will help us petition the pope to have you declared a saint.


673 posted on 01/30/2007 8:59:02 PM PST by pjr12345
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To: pjr12345

Well, I am not surprised to read you think the Devil can perform miracles


674 posted on 01/31/2007 4:10:18 AM PST by bornacatholic
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To: reagandemocrat; Alex Murphy
Look....there are those on this thread who have referred to the Mother of God, as "Our Lady of Perpetual Thin Mints", the "first Girl Scout" a "cookie-giver" and flippantly "Our Lady of Do Si Do's"-- I think those remarks are very disrespectful of Our Lord's Mother. What do you think?

I think some people are offended by merchandising. I can't say I blame them. I would find merchandising of images of Jesus Christ pretty offensive. If the RCC holds her in such high regard yet merchandises images of her, I have a hard time reconciling those two things.

675 posted on 01/31/2007 4:35:40 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Acts 17:11 also known as sola scriptura.)
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To: wagglebee

You ignored my response.


676 posted on 01/31/2007 5:27:36 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Acts 17:11 also known as sola scriptura.)
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To: DungeonMaster

If one follows the Church's teaching, the Blessed Virgin Mary was conceived in an immaculate state, thus negating any need to be born again.

Now, I am well aware that you totally disagree with Church dogma on the Immaculate Conception; but, by the same token, you need to be aware that for those of us who do follow Church doctrine, what you say is irrelevant in regards to the Blessed Mother.

So, now that you have my response, I will ask again, what about in Genesis, when emnity is placed between the devil and his seed and the woman and her Seed, can we agree that if the woman's Seed is Jesus Christ that the woman is Mary?


677 posted on 01/31/2007 5:47:45 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: bornacatholic; pjr12345; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan

In the Book of Revelation, it points out that the Dragon is behind the Beast.

pjr12345 is correct in that regard.

The implication of Jesus' talking about the effects of Satan having a divided house should apply here, too. One shouldn't expect to see Satan healing or casting out demons.

Additionally, God is Creator and no other. One would expect creative acts (water to wine? bread ex nihilo for feeding a crowd?) to be non-duplicatable.

I haven't studied it, but it's possible there's a distinction that should be made between "signs" and "miracles."

At a minimum, we should be distinguishing between "ex nihilo acts" and "manipulative acts."


678 posted on 01/31/2007 5:52:40 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: wagglebee
So, now that you have my response, I will ask again, what about in Genesis, when enmity is placed between the devil and his seed and the woman and her Seed, can we agree that if the woman's Seed is Jesus Christ that the woman is Mary?

That is a tricky passage to translate from Hebrew and Greek. The part about "you/he shall crush your head" is something that has been argued about since at least Augustine's time, and continues till this day.

So the person referred to in that passage is either Jesus or Mary, and many of the older translations imply a male. Though quite a few female or gender non specific.

679 posted on 01/31/2007 5:59:06 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: bornacatholic

It's not me... it's the Bible!


680 posted on 01/31/2007 6:00:17 AM PST by pjr12345
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