Posted on 01/29/2007 6:45:51 AM PST by stfassisi
Who are these certifying doctors and what do we know about them? For all we know they could be United Nation observers, and then where's your "proof"?
I've "heard" a lot about "miracles" happening in lots of places from lots of religious folks (not just RCCers). I have yet to meet a single, solitary person who can demonstrate first-hand evidence of same.
It would seem that the age of miracles left with the Apostles. But I remain open to the idea, as God can do what He will with His creation.
You have to admit it's better than "Our Lady of the Perpetual Do-Si-Dos."
Besides, Thin Mints are rather divine.
I'm just sayin' is all...
Move to strike as non-responsive.
Pull the other one...
As wagglebee said upthread, continue with your callous disrespect for the Mother of God at your will.
That was never my question. I asked if you could document a case of "healing"? Of course there are false prophets who can produce "miracles" or "signs", there is the story of where Paul causes a false prophet to be blinded; however, these refer to "magic tricks." So I ask again, where does scripture speak of satan HEALING someone?
*Yeah, all that weird stuff like relics and whatnot. 'sup with that?
Both.
This is the unembalmed body of St. Bernadette Soubirous, she died in 1879, her body was exhumed thirty years later and has been on permanent display since 1925 (These pictures were taken in 1997).
Here is her rusted Rosary which was buried with her.
So, please explain how any of this has occurred.
Lighten up St. Francis.
So, to you, she is just another person in the Bible? Yet, you refuse the instruction in Luke to call her blessed. Which other Biblical instructions do you ignore because they are "too Catholic"?
Regarding the Truth, I have all the Truth I need in Jesus, who is the Truth. As He said "Blessed are those who believe and have not seen". My belief is not dependent on any signs at all.
*Satan and his henchmen go about doing good? They heal the sick?
I feel cheated. I was never learnt this in my Catechism classes. I can understand protestants making such errors, but a Catholic?
Come on...you made a mistake. Just admit it and retract it...
See what I wrote in 566, while it is well documented that satan can perform magic tricks that some might take as miracles, there is nothing to indicate that he has ever healed anyone. The Bible does distinguish between these false signs and actual healing miracles.
Really? Peter resurrecting Tabitha might be a devil's trick?
According to Jesus, the Devil cannot heal people.
When it was said to Jesus that he healed and cast out demons by the power of Satan, he said that if Satan is casting out Satan he is overthrown, a house divided against itself cannot stand.
Obviously, according to Jesus in the Gospels, Satan cannot HEAL anybody, although he can apparently do OTHER signs and wonders, which Jesus (and various prophets) warned us about.
So, when I see the specific nature of the miracles at Lourdes, that they are HEALINGS, there is no doubt whatever in my own mind that this is the work of the Holy Spirit.
And, the fact that it happens at LOURDES, and only there in such profusion, is important because LOURDES is a spring that bubbled up after a purported series of Marian apparitions. So, the Holy Spirit is healing people, public miracles in our day, at one place, and IT'S A MARIAN SHRINE!
What does this tell us?
Well, it tells me that the Christian sect that most greatly venerates Mary has the favor of God. And which sect is THAT? Catholicism (and Orthodoxy). Because of the nature of the miracles at Lourdes, it cannot be demonic: the Devil cannot heal, only God can do that. It is God. God is doing this under statues and icons of Mary. THEREFORE, God is not offended by statues or icons of Mary, and the whole argument against statues in Catholic Churches as "idols" is blown to pieces by the direct action of GOD HIMSELF!
Further, of all the places for God to erupt with healing miracles, a Shrine to MARY, where MARY appeared, narrows down the range of Christianity to one-and-a-half Churches: Catholicism/Orthodoxy. Everybody else rejects the special saintliness of Mary, except for the Catholics and the Orthodox...and God, who does public miracles still, but ONLY THERE, in Mary's Shrine, at least in that profusion (of course there are individual miracles all around the world, but Lourdes is the only ongoing fountain of them).
So, that's the importance of the Shrine and Lourdes, and the fact that the miracles are HEALING miracles and not anything else.
Our separated brethren are trapped by their traditions into seeing what goes on at Lourdes as possibly demonic, and to oppose the veneration of Mary. By posing the questions as I do, I am forcing thought on the problem of blaspheming the Holy Spirit in the face of what obviously ARE healing miracles, lots of them. They will not be persuaded to venerate Mary or become Catholics in this way, but some WILL be persuaded to leave Mary alone, and that is a good thing, both from the perspective of their own souls at the end, and from the perspective of those of us who wince every time we hear Mary slimed.
Amen.
The miracles of the Apostles occurred so the word of God would go forth and men could see with their eyes and understand and be converted to the truth of Christ risen.
But now we believe the unseen things by faith through the spirit of God.
It is obvious you are an orthodox Christian Catholic who knows better :)
Absolutely not! It is a miracle of healing. Satan has performed no acts of healing.
I agree, Satan can perform magic tricks that some might take as miracles.
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