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The Doctrine of Purgatory
http://www.therealpresence.org/archives/Eschatology/Eschatology_006.htm ^ | Unknown | Fr. John A. Hardon, S.J

Posted on 01/29/2007 6:45:51 AM PST by stfassisi

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To: 1000 silverlings

LOL. That is really cool.

Parrots: Yes. No. Tasty.


261 posted on 01/29/2007 3:27:47 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Iscool

All excellent questions.


262 posted on 01/29/2007 3:29:28 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Iron Roger Flint at yer service, barb-qued parrot on the grill
263 posted on 01/29/2007 3:29:37 PM PST by 1000 silverlings
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

"Let's call our nearby parishes and see if they'll sell us an indulgence or two.
Shall we?"

Go for it!
If one does, tell us all!
Indeed, if one does, you will have demonstrated a fatal flaw in the Catholic Church and gone a long way towards proving your argument, even to Catholics.
Go try to buy an indulgence!
Please!
(I dare you!)


264 posted on 01/29/2007 3:30:43 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: 1000 silverlings
Red ____ Rackham.

(I must have filled in a very belligerent dot.)
265 posted on 01/29/2007 3:33:12 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

lol. Calumny!


266 posted on 01/29/2007 3:33:40 PM PST by 1000 silverlings
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To: Iscool
We are not brothers and sisters in Christ because one group is not 'in' Christ and Christ is not 'in' that same group...

You write the most outrageous things

Things that you hear from radical fundamentalist.

I thought I told you to never post me again a while back?

267 posted on 01/29/2007 3:35:25 PM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: stfassisi
I thought I told you to never post me again a while back?

Oh, sorry...Next time I'll post it to 'all' and you can read it anyway...Just trying to let you know that if you end up in Hell, it won't be because you weren't warned...

268 posted on 01/29/2007 3:43:19 PM PST by Iscool (There will be NO peace on earth, NOR good will toward men UNTIL there is Glory to God in the Highest)
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To: Vicomte13

It took you three hours to come back with that? Do you doubt you could walk into your parish and pay for an indulgence? How about Prayer Cards? Bought any of those lately? Paid for a mass to be said in someone's name?


269 posted on 01/29/2007 3:43:50 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Iscool

Please either prove that "Catholics are taught (not by the bible) by their church that Jesus' death on the cross was not enough for their salvation..."--or retract it.

Also, please prove or retract this statement:

"one group is not 'in' Christ and 'Christ is not 'in' that same group"

Because what you have posted is not the truth about the Church.


270 posted on 01/29/2007 3:44:10 PM PST by Running On Empty
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To: Iscool

No living person can claim with any certainty and any validity that any other living person will end up in hell.


271 posted on 01/29/2007 3:46:09 PM PST by Running On Empty
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To: Running On Empty; Iscool
Please either prove that "Catholics are taught (not by the bible) by their church that Jesus' death on the cross was not enough for their salvation..."

How many times have RCs posted that men are saved by faith in Christ AND by their good works?

Grace alone saves, completely and eternally.

272 posted on 01/29/2007 3:48:07 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Running On Empty
No living person can claim with any certainty and any validity that any other living person will end up in hell.

That is true, as the thief on the cross illustrated.

273 posted on 01/29/2007 3:49:11 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Running On Empty
Please either prove that "Catholics are taught (not by the bible) by their church that Jesus' death on the cross was not enough for their salvation..."--or retract it.

C'mon...That's what this post about purgatory is all about...Either Jesus paid it all, and there is no purgatory, or sinners have to do something to get into heaven besides accepting Jesus as a Savior...

274 posted on 01/29/2007 3:55:38 PM PST by Iscool (There will be NO peace on earth, NOR good will toward men UNTIL there is Glory to God in the Highest)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

And how many times have Catholics provided the truth about the application of "works" and "salvation" ?

Times without number.

BTW, I don't mind you answering my post, but I did ask Iscool.


275 posted on 01/29/2007 3:56:01 PM PST by Running On Empty
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To: Running On Empty

Iscool did answer as I was posting.


276 posted on 01/29/2007 3:57:00 PM PST by Running On Empty
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To: Running On Empty
No living person can claim with any certainty and any validity that any other living person will end up in hell.

You are mistaken...I know many people who are headed there and have made it there...Some will change their mind before it's too late...

277 posted on 01/29/2007 4:01:51 PM PST by Iscool (There will be NO peace on earth, NOR good will toward men UNTIL there is Glory to God in the Highest)
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To: Iscool

You "know people who have made it there"?

Do you mean you know people who made it to hell?

If so, how can you know that? Did they come back to tell you?


278 posted on 01/29/2007 4:05:41 PM PST by Running On Empty
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To: Iscool

>>>I know many people who are headed there and have made it there<<<

Interesting.

Will you tell us who is in hell, and who is headed there, by name?


279 posted on 01/29/2007 4:08:34 PM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: Iscool

I changed my mind on that last one...I know what's required to spend eternity with God...But I can only speculate (and hope) what may happen in the final seconds before death to unsaved people...

But when you ask folks what they are counting on to get to heaven, that'll give you a fairly good idea which way they're headed...There's only one road...


280 posted on 01/29/2007 4:10:25 PM PST by Iscool (There will be NO peace on earth, NOR good will toward men UNTIL there is Glory to God in the Highest)
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