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Liturgical Quiz (Roman Catholic (liturgy) Mass Abuses)
St. Mike ^ | Father Jeremy Driscoll

Posted on 01/23/2007 5:21:58 PM PST by NYer

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1 posted on 01/23/2007 5:22:01 PM PST by NYer
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To: Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

No cheating! Your Guardian Angel is your witness ;-)


2 posted on 01/23/2007 5:23:01 PM PST by NYer (Apart from the cross, there is no other ladder by which we may get to Heaven. St. Rose of Lima)
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To: NYer

I am so making a copy of that and giving it to our parish priest!


3 posted on 01/23/2007 5:30:22 PM PST by SAMS ("I may look harmless, but I raised a U.S. MARINE!" Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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38 is no longer true - the extraordinary ministers may no longer purify the vessels.


4 posted on 01/23/2007 5:32:37 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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What to do about Liturgical Abuses?

What can be done about liturgical abuses? First, know your rights. Inaestimabile Donum and Canon Law state:

"The faithful have a right to a true Liturgy, which means the Liturgy desired and laid down by the Church, which has in fact indicated where adaptations may be made as called for by pastoral requirements in different places or by different groups of people. Undue experimentation, changes and creativity bewilder the faithful. The use of unauthorized texts means a loss of the necessary connection between the lex orandi and the lex credendi. The Second Vatican Council's admonition in this regard must be remembered: "No person, even if he be a priest, may add, remove or change anything in the Liturgy on his own authority." [Sacrosanctum Concilium] And Paul VI of venerable memory stated that: "Anyone who takes advantage of the reform to indulge in arbitrary experiments is wasting energy and offending the ecclesial sense."[Paul VI, address of August 22, 1973: "L'Osservatore Romano," August 23, 1973.]

Canon 528 ß2: "The parish priest is to take care that the blessed Eucharist is the center of the parish assembly of the faithful. He is to strive to ensure that the faithful are nourished by the devout celebration of the sacraments, and in particular that they frequently approach the sacraments of the blessed Eucharist and penance. He is to strive to lead them to prayer, including prayer in their families, and to take a live and active part in the sacred liturgy. Under the authority of the diocesan Bishop, the parish priest must direct this liturgy in his own parish, and he is bound to be on guard against abuses."

Charitably approach your priest and, with the documents in hand from this site, explain that you require the Church's Liturgical rubrics be followed. If personal contact is difficult, try writing a letter and again include the referenced Church documents. If, after several attempts, the priest does not return to the Church's rubrics, report the priest to his Bishop. Should that fail, then find another properly celebrated Holy Sacrifice of the Mass to attend. Drive to the next diocese if you must. Isn't your worship of God worth it? If you must contact the Vatican to deal with liturgical abuse, then write to:

Cardinal Francis Arinze
Prefect - Congregation for Divine Worship
Piazza Pio XII, 10
Vatican City (Europe) 00120

Liturgical Abuse - Is Your Mass Valid?

5 posted on 01/23/2007 5:39:51 PM PST by NYer (Apart from the cross, there is no other ladder by which we may get to Heaven. St. Rose of Lima)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Thanks for posting the updated information.


6 posted on 01/23/2007 5:42:57 PM PST by NYer (Apart from the cross, there is no other ladder by which we may get to Heaven. St. Rose of Lima)
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To: SAMS
I am so making a copy of that and giving it to our parish priest!

Great idea! And while you're at it, why not distribute copies to the members of the Parish Council and ... especially .... the Director for Religious Education. She (or he) should appreciate the importance of knowing our Catholic faith.

7 posted on 01/23/2007 5:53:59 PM PST by NYer (Apart from the cross, there is no other ladder by which we may get to Heaven. St. Rose of Lima)
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To: NYer

Excellent post--will bookmark it...

got only 9 wrong out of 60...


8 posted on 01/23/2007 5:56:21 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: NYer

"True - a Directive issued by the Episcopal Conference of Bishops in the United States permits this practice."

Re: 38.
Since when does an Episcopal Conference have the authority to change the mandated rubrics without Rome's approval?


9 posted on 01/23/2007 6:14:27 PM PST by rogator
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Re: 38. Since when does an Episcopal Conference have the authority to change the mandated rubrics without Rome's approval?

38.  A deacon or other minister may purify (clean) the vessels instead of the priest.

Not sure I understand your question.

10 posted on 01/23/2007 6:22:42 PM PST by NYer (Apart from the cross, there is no other ladder by which we may get to Heaven. St. Rose of Lima)
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Great quiz! I missed 8. Bookmarking for later sharing!


11 posted on 01/23/2007 6:32:01 PM PST by fortunecookie (My computer is back!)
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To: NYer

Oh, this is too easy...unless you're a liberal V-II loving priest or "pastoral associate."


12 posted on 01/23/2007 6:43:54 PM PST by AlaninSA ("Beware the fury of a patient man." - John Dryden)
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22. The Vatican has issued guidelines encouraging people to hold hands during the "Our Father".

Can anyone tell me how this practice originated?

13 posted on 01/23/2007 6:55:19 PM PST by stop_fascism
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"48. False - individuals may never be invited to hold hands around the altar during the Consecration. (Notitiae 17)"

St. Cecelia's Church Boston, Father Unni presiding. I have never seen such a spectacle at Mass before. Hundreds of people walking wherever they please as they make their way to crowd behind the priest during the consecration.
What a scene. I walked out.
14 posted on 01/23/2007 7:01:39 PM PST by warsaw44
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i think what he's saying is along the lines of an episcopal conference changing parts of the Mass without first getting an OK from Rome...

IIRC, the Episcopal Conferences can adapt parts of the Mass--but it has to be approved by Rome (which is a fairly strict process in and of itself) and any change cannot fundamentally contradict or radically change the Mass.


15 posted on 01/23/2007 7:11:49 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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Simply went by what I have experienced through 21 years at an incredibly orthodox parish and scored swell. Great quiz, I'll pass it along....


16 posted on 01/23/2007 9:14:04 PM PST by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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To: NYer

bookmark for later printing. That hand holding during the Our Father really irritates me.


17 posted on 01/23/2007 9:19:26 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: NYer

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"the people may never join in with the "Through Him, with Him, in Him..." prayer"

Or, . . . . . . . what?


18 posted on 01/23/2007 9:19:45 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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" Not sure I understand your question."

My mistake.
I meant to cite "53. Women may join the 12 selected members of the parish to have their feet washed on Holy Thursday."
"53. True - a Directive issued by the Episcopal Conference of Bishops in the United States permits this practice."

Although I cannot find any such Directive, I question the Episcopal Conference's authority to change the liturgical rubrics without the approval of Rome.


19 posted on 01/23/2007 9:21:43 PM PST by rogator
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13. It is permissible to omit the Creed on a Sunday or solemnity if the priest chooses to do so.

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Several Times during Saturday vigil Mass instead of the Creed we have had people renewing their wedding vows. Each time the priest (same one -- he says he loves weddings) explains that this is licit because it is a sacrament. I am confused, is he mistaken or am I not reading the question correctly?
20 posted on 01/24/2007 12:05:08 AM PST by Talking_Mouse (wahhabi delenda est)
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