Posted on 12/04/2006 7:52:47 PM PST by Pyro7480
What about the pope's hat then, he's always got it on when he prays?
"Zontos" modifies "theou", by common sense, and yes, it is therefore ungrammatical no matter how you look at it. Unless we subvert all translations known to man, and translate, grammatically
"the God's Church, living, pillar and foundation of truth".
I think it is a colloquialism that is in too much of a hurry to separate subordinate clauses with prepositions.
"ekklesia theou [pas o] zontos [e de] stylos kai edraioma tes aletheias"
Or any combination.
The point remains, God is no architectual support element of anything, but the Church, metaphorically is.
a question better addressed to Catholics, however I'd note that the Orthodox take of head coverings during prayer during liturgy. (you'll note that in context St Paul is speaking about prayer when Christians come together for liturgy; not all prayer anywhere)
Makes no sense. Is Christ a tabernacle of Himself? Was the Old Testament Tabernacle the Word?
No you can't have it both ways, sorry. Besides the higher the hat, the closer to heaven
WRONG
Well get a letter off to the pope and get back to us. He has hundreds of hats.
St Paul said no men praying covered at liturgy; our men don't.
St Paul said no women praying uncovered at liturgy. Our women pray covered; yours don't.
It's clear that your parish simply doesn't care what Holy Scripture says they simply go with the popular traditions of the time.
Nice to read some Biblical sanity about the issues.
Our church does not have a pope. I see no reason to write to one as to what my church teaches.
Another authority of that opinion was St. Jerome, but that notwithstanding, the West followed the canon of Hippo and Carthage, and the East simply used the complete Canon, to this day. Opinions of individuals are interesting, but the Church as a whole disposes.
Now, now.
Gone ta meddlin'
LOL.
Quix says: wrong.
St Paul says:
1Cr 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having [his] head covered, dishonoureth his head.
1Cr 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with [her] head uncovered dishonoureth her head
1Cr 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches:
1Cr 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
Methinks I'll stick with St Paul.
I think I'll continue to be the gatekeeper on what is Biblical and sensible, to me.
Interesting in that the church of Satan preaches the exact same thing; beleive what you think benefits you; self above all else.
Does that work the same for what's her name . . .
on The Simpson's Cartoon show . . . the high hairdo ???
Or is it just more airheadedness pretending to be closer to Heaven?
3rd
because OF THE TRADITION OF THE TIME, Paul gave an exhortation FOR THEN.
Context CAN be very important in Pauls writings as he, himself notes on occasion.
Just like the wolves would be expected to say 'st paul only meant that then, its fine to ignore now; abandon Scripture and follow what WE say...'.
Think i'm gonna stick with St Paul here.
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