Posted on 12/04/2006 7:52:47 PM PST by Pyro7480
DM:"It was what you said about praying to the dead that fooled me."
In that case, it was actually your ignorance of orthodox Christianity that fooled you. The Church has always taught that there is now life after death. In keeping with that belief is the teaching that triumphant saints can and do handle prayer requests. How those requests get delivered has not been completely revealed to us, but there is reason to believe that the messages are somehow delivered by holy angels.
Great post. Thanks.
No. The apostle John. 1 John 2:19They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
We don't erect a statue of the church janitor and bow before it simply because he was faithful in his calling. If the church janitor was faithful in his calling, the glory for that accomplishment belongs to God and God alone.
Statue of Luther in Wittenberg
Statue of Luther in Dresden
Luther's Tomb (Note the flowers at the tomb and in the background the statue of a man praying to another statue.)
Another view
Katherine Luther's Tomb
One wonders, then, who was +Paul speaking to – and why?
Those who won't can't leave the faith? They didn't need because they won't can't lose it!
And since those who never believed but, simply cried Lord, Lord, were never of it to begin with, it would be stupid to tell them to persevere.
In +Paul believed what Protestants believe, he would have never told anyone to persevere in their faith.
A theological edumication is not always a good thing.
Huh?
The guy in the other statue is probably the janitor.
No. It was 78
As long as you don't start quoting Hume or worse, Huxley, we'll be okay :)
Do you see people bowing there? Praying there? I don't see people bowing or praying.
annalex to blue-duncan: Nope. For one thing, he says "every man". Besides, we have Matthew 25 and Apocalypse 22
You are bsolutely spot on; every man. Like you said, reading the Bible without the Protestant spin leads to the Church. If you conveniently leave out crucial words then you are positively heading in the wrong direction. And they are the ones who will be the first to tell you that every word counts!
What are you talking about?! There is a STATUE of a man PRAYING TO A STATUE and on of the statue she is praying to is clearly a woman.
I do not see what you are talking about. Where is there someone praying to a statue?
How did our elite bombers miss that target?
Luther wasn't a Baptist. Your pictures are part of the reason there are so many Protestant denominations. Every time there is error discerned, there is a break away to the truth. Right now the truth resides in the Baptist church but just wait a few minutes, I think I heard that Carter and Clinton (sounds like a shyster Law Firm or used car sales) are starting their own Baptist denomination so we may be changing our name or affiliation. That would make around 200,001 to start off the New Year.
CBF'ers like Carter and Clinton should have broken off a long time ago. The only reason that I think some of these non-Baptist denominations stay in the SBC is because of the annuity fund.
IIRC, The Baptists were not a part of the Reformation, but instead were the original church from which the Roman Catholic Church and Greek Orthodox churches broke away and then fell into error.
Carry on.
Beneath the stained glass windows there is a statue of a man praying to statues. This is the church where Martin Luther is entombed, the 95 Theses were posted on the door to this church, this church more than any other place is where the Reformation BEGAN. And yet this church is full of statues and stained glass depicting the Blessed Virgin and Crucifixes.
So, please explain why these weren't removed if they were so objectionable to Luther. For that matter, those of you who have so many issues with Catholic/Orthodox Marian beliefs should have the same issues with Martin Luther because HE BELIEVED THE SAME THING THAT CATHOLICS DO ABOUT THE BLESSED VIRGIN!
It is what happens when contrascripturalism marries its cousin counterscripturalism: sola scriptura, sola fide, mariophobia and other suchlike malformed superstitions.
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