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'The Nativity Story' Movie Problematic for Catholics, "Unsuitable" for Young Children
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| 12/4/2006
| John-Henry Westen
Posted on 12/04/2006 7:52:47 PM PST by Pyro7480
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To: hosepipe
You said that, not me True. But when I asked you,"But who made you an authority over me? Why assume that your Holy Spirit leading is superior to mine?", you replied, "Good question.. Because YOU are a slave to Roman Catholic dogma.. at least some of it.. thats why."
When you reply to a 'Why is X the case?' question with "because ..." you imply that X is indeed the case.
Hearing the Holy Spirit is not a given.. He speaks you can miss it(what he says).. or me.. Who has ears to hear?
So, regarding the interpretation of "This is my body", how do we know who has ears to hear?
-A8
14,701
posted on
05/16/2007 1:47:21 PM PDT
by
adiaireton8
("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
To: kosta50
The Day of The Lord is somewhat interchangeable.
It has been used for the day of The Rapture, catching away of The Church . . .
as well as His overt and very obvious return for Armageddon when it will be very triumphant for His Kingdom and horrendously horrible for those in rebellion against Him and in support of satan.
Interestingly, the globalist puppet masters have bought into satan’s lie that satan and company will WIN at Armageddon. Evidently a host of “ET’s” [Biblical fallen Watchers, evidently] have facilitated that conviction on the idiot globalist’s parts.
14,702
posted on
05/16/2007 1:49:24 PM PDT
by
Quix
(GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
To: adiaireton8
[.. So, regarding the interpretation of "This is my body", how do we know who has ears to hear? ..]
What is Christs body, "the bread" or his body(the church)?..
Much metaphor here.. including "ears to hear"..
Christ's body and the church are both metaphor's of the same thing..
The bread and blood are additional metaphors...
Three metaphors with the same message and good news..
14,703
posted on
05/16/2007 2:16:56 PM PDT
by
hosepipe
(CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
To: hosepipe
What is Christs body, "the bread" or his body(the church)?.. Much metaphor here.. including "ears to hear".. Christ's body and the church are both metaphor's of the same thing.. The bread and blood are additional metaphors... Three metaphors with the same message and good news.. How does that show us "who has ears to hear" regarding what Jesus meant by "This is My Body"?
-A8
14,704
posted on
05/16/2007 2:22:14 PM PDT
by
adiaireton8
("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
To: adiaireton8
[.. How does that show us "who has ears to hear" regarding what Jesus meant by "This is My Body"? ..]
If you CAN hear the metaphor then you have ears to hear.. silly..
Otherwise you cannot hear it(the metaphor) YOU HEAR WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR..
14,705
posted on
05/16/2007 2:45:15 PM PDT
by
hosepipe
(CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
To: Forest Keeper
All churches have people in it who are not truly saved-even Baptist ones! Amen, brother! To this day, my most vivid memory of being a counselor at a Billy Graham crusade (here in St. Louis '99) was at his altar call, when he specifically reached out to pastors who might not be saved. I was blown away. :) At that time I had not even considered that possibility, but he was absolutely right. A person can have absolutely any station in life and yet not be saved. The Spirit really grew me in sanctification that day, and I am forever thankful. Amen.
Belonging to a particular church doesn't mean one is saved, one has to be part of the real Church, the spiritual church, the Body of Christ.
And that only occurs with the New Birth at which point the Holy Spirit takes the individual and unites him forever with Christ (1Cor.12:13)
Those are the 'wheat' all the rest are the 'chaff'.
To: hosepipe
YOU HEAR WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR.. So you are saying that even if the Bible teaches Catholicism, you would only see Protestantism in it, because you hear what you want to hear, and see what you want to see. Is that what you are saying?
-A8
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posted on
05/16/2007 3:06:14 PM PDT
by
adiaireton8
("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
To: adiaireton8
[.. So you are saying that even if the Bible teaches Catholicism, you would only see Protestantism in it, because you hear what you want to hear, and see what you want to see. Is that what you are saying? ..]
The Bible teachs neither.. It teaches what it teaches..
The Bible is worthless without the Holy Spirit..
The Holy Spirit can take you as far as you are willing to go..
If you are limited by dogma then you can only go that far..
Which is better than nothing, I'd say.. Except that just a taste can be a tease..
The Holy Spirit is bound by no 501c tax free organization.. -OR- clergy..
The Holy Spirit is an element of very God.. subject to no one..
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posted on
05/16/2007 3:28:04 PM PDT
by
hosepipe
(CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
To: blue-duncan; kosta50
HD, the animals are exactly the way God made them. They move by necessity I'm glad you didn't tell that to Daniel before he entered the lions' den.
bd-Hold it, just hold it!! You mean to tell me that an all loving God made my stupid dog to poo- on my rug by necessity and itss not his lousy character?
LOLOL!!!
To: HarleyD
While I hold a covenant view, I tell people that I believe were devolving. I believe the church is simply here to call out Gods chosen people and, once thats done, boom! Somewhat like the countdown in Independence Day.... No one believe me... ;O)I believe you, I agree with you......Ping
To: kosta50
And here I was under the impression that the "Day of the Lord" is the day of His grace and mercy!11Peter 3:8....one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. I believe the "Day of the Lord" is the millennium. Of course that is also a time of "His grace and mercy".
..Ping
To: blue-duncan
Hold it, just hold it!! You mean to tell me that an all loving God made my stupid dog to poo- on my rug by necessity and itss not his lousy character? Dogs can be housebrokrn by people who know what they are doing. :)
14,712
posted on
05/16/2007 6:13:56 PM PDT
by
kosta50
(Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
To: kosta50
“Dogs can be housebrokrn by people who know what they are doing. :)”
Yeah, but that brings us back to the “day of the Lord” and K becomes the “lord”.
To: blue-duncan
Kosta, old friend, neither you nor I will be around for the day of the Lord. Thats reserved for His wrath and we have escaped that by trusting in Christ Thank you, BD, but the angry vengeful God is alien to Orthodoxy.
14,714
posted on
05/16/2007 6:24:05 PM PDT
by
kosta50
(Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
To: Quix
We Orthodox speak of Final Judgment. That’s when the wheat will be separated from the chaff. The rest is...rather alien.
14,715
posted on
05/16/2007 6:27:12 PM PDT
by
kosta50
(Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
To: Ping-Pong
I believe the "Day of the Lord" is the millennium. Of course that is also a time of "His grace and mercy". Every day is Lord's day of grace and mercy.
14,716
posted on
05/16/2007 6:29:41 PM PDT
by
kosta50
(Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
To: kosta50
What do you do with that interesting Scripture about the saints being taken out to avoid the wrath of God whilst the observers are characterized as more or less clueless about that fact/perspective?
[my paraphrase but not too far off]
14,717
posted on
05/16/2007 6:35:44 PM PDT
by
Quix
(GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
To: Ping-Pong
I think I have a list somewhere of the Scriptures such as
The Day of The Lord etc.
Will try and post them within a month.
14,718
posted on
05/16/2007 6:36:37 PM PDT
by
Quix
(GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
To: Ping-Pong
BTW, they—the lists do NOT indicate that it’s the millenium.
I think I have a list somewhere of the Scriptures such as
The Day of The Lord etc.
Will try and post them within a month.
14,719
posted on
05/16/2007 6:37:12 PM PDT
by
Quix
(GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
To: blue-duncan
Yeah, but that brings us back to the day of the Lord and K becomes the lord Lucky you! :)
14,720
posted on
05/16/2007 6:44:08 PM PDT
by
kosta50
(Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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