'The Nativity Story' Movie Problematic for Catholics, "Unsuitable" for Young Children

LifeSiteNews.com ^ | 12/4/2006 | John-Henry Westen

[Marysecretary]

Man, am I glad I KNOW I will have eternal life--eternally!

[Marysecretary]

Thanks, but no thanks. I already know what the church is.

[Kolokotronis]

"However, the Bible teaches that all are born with original sin."

Another one of those non-patristic ideas you guys got from the Latins! :)

[Marysecretary]

Sorry, but we don't PLAY church where I worship. It's real, my dear.

[Marysecretary]

stupid one...

[1000 silverlings]

The verse I referenced which you so conveniently forgot to include, clearly says that the angel and not God heard the prayer, and then he carried it before God. Spin it anyway you wish that it what it says. We've got people posting praying to Mary, praying to angels, praying to the dead, to just about everyone except God,and no wonder. No wonder we are confused and not sure why you believe as you do. I also suspect most of you inherited your faith from your families and are not what Jesus called "born again". This is the likely result of your confusion.

[Marysecretary]

Gee, really? Where is it?????

[Marysecretary]

Isn't that the truth. That's sad, too.

[kosta50]

So the bible is not inspired at all. Thanks for laying down your cards

Inspired yes, dictated by God no. There is a difference.

[Marysecretary]

I never read those threads. I'm not a Hobbit fan. Sniff.

[1000 silverlings]

Beats me, I can't even figure out "what" it is

[Marysecretary]

There's only hope in Jesus Christ, mercat. We can ALL be saved if we ask Him to redeem us. Love, Mxxx

[Marysecretary]

Geez. Count me out for Day 3, will ya, huh? (smile) I'm weary.

[blue-duncan]

"Another one of those non-patristic ideas you guys got from the Latins! :)"

Thanks, I was looking for someone to blame it on. I fought those dam- Latin teachers all the way through high school and college and they responded to my low view with equally low grades. But I learned a valuable lesson; don't speak ill of the dead, the person who holds your paycheck or the one who gives you the final grade.

[Forest Keeper]

It appears you have no good reason to ask [a friend] to pray then, as the outcome is predetermined. But St. Paul asked for other's prayers, just to give one example.

Scripture commands us to pray, that is all the reason we need. Prayer is also always good for the one praying, regardless of the answer.

[Marysecretary]

I have no problem with those good and often martyred saints. But I don't think God makes a distinction between us and them. There are a lot of people who are being martyred for their faith every day. We also may be in line for that. Hope I'm ready and don't wimp out (phew).

[1000 silverlings]

Making such vicious attacks without any basis, just because you love to hate. A simple reading of the passage in question would have silenced any thought that Tobit speaks of worshiping angels. But no, in your rush to judge others, you make such a blatant error... Hopefully, you don't make this a habit when you spout off your theological opinions without actually reading the Scriptures in question...

Seeing as how I did read the text, but you chose not to post it, please refrain from these types of ad hominem attacks.

[Kolokotronis]

"I fought those dam- Latin teachers all the way through high school and college and they responded to my low view with equally low grades."

See, that explains it all. If you had studied Greek, God's language (don't argue this one with me; my great grandmother KNEW this), instead of proto French, well, you'd have ended up in a "better place"! :0

[blue-duncan]

John 10:28, "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand."

The verse says they shall never perish which is translated can never be lost. The verse is parallelism in form;

they shall never perish,
neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

They reinforce the same idea; you can't be lost.

[1000 silverlings]

dictated by God no

And Moses came and called for the elders of the people, and laid before their faces all these words which the LORD commanded him.

19:8 And all the people answered together, and said, All that the LORD hath spoken we will do. And Moses returned the words of the people unto the LORD.

19:9 And the LORD said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee for ever. And Moses told the words of the people unto the LORD.

19:10 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them to day and to morrow, and let them wash their clothes,

19:11 And be ready against the third day: for the third day the LORD will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.

19:19 And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and God answered him by a voice. 19:20 And the LORD came down upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: and the LORD called Moses up to the top of the mount; and Moses went up.