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'The Nativity Story' Movie Problematic for Catholics, "Unsuitable" for Young Children
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | 12/4/2006 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 12/04/2006 7:52:47 PM PST by Pyro7480

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To: Pyro7480

And because he was perfect man, he had a perfect sexual and human nature so we cannot measure him with our own limitations.


10,421 posted on 02/14/2007 7:41:01 PM PST by Mercat (Conservative Catholic here and I will not rule out either Rudy or Mitt.)
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To: Forest Keeper
I'm not equating God's "emotions" to our human emotions, but the Bible says what it says, and there has to be a reason for so many scriptures to use those terms in describing God

Let's say I write a novel. In that novel I have a number of characters who do things as I determine they will do, what color hair or eyes they will have, what gender, where will they be from, how they behave, live, when they die, etc.

I write and they do as I wrote. There is no chance that any character in my novel will 'rebel' and do something that's not in the script, that I didn't put there.

My book will begin, develop and end as I envision it exactly as I wrote it. Nothing will change the outcome once the book is published.

Now, in my book I have a character who is envious of his neighbor. And, one day, in a fit of jealous rage, my character kills his neighbor. What should be my reaction to this act? How should I "feel" as the creator of the character and eveyrhting he does, including the murder, if it is entirely the product of my authorship?

Can I justifiably be 'angry' and 'disappointed' with him? Can I 'repent' for having created him in my book without blaming myself?

10,422 posted on 02/14/2007 8:06:06 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; jo kus; Forest Keeper; kawaii; 1000 silverlings; DungeonMaster; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; ...

"The author of that spendid article forgot that Greek-speaking Jews"

No, he didn't forget. See, the Jews had their own magesteriam, called the Sanhedren, and they decide what is in their canon, not scriveners in Egypt. As Josephesus reported, the Apocrypha didn't make it and no self respecting religious Jew would add it to the canon. Kind of like when the Council of Trent decided after 1400 years to override the doubts of all that went before and add it.


10,423 posted on 02/14/2007 8:12:28 PM PST by blue-duncan
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To: Forest Keeper; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; HarleyD; 1000 silverlings; blue-duncan
You are right that it is not a gift like a book or a piece of jewelry. It is a gift, or "thing", of infinitely greater value, freedom. When a master releases his slave from bondage, do you think the slave perceives that a gift has been given to him?

Rationalizations, FK. Gifts are things we give for Christmas, birthdays, Valentine's Day, etc. Freedom is freedom. If someone is freed, he is either pardoned, or released, or "made free." Mercy is just what the word means — mercy; being spared.

Reformers believe that only those predestined to receive mercy will receive mercy, so it is no gift but an 'executive' (no pun intended!) decision before all ages before those receiving mercy were even created (and 'enslaved').

10,424 posted on 02/14/2007 8:18:21 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: annalex; Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; jo kus; xzins; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg
"Blessed" is one stage below "saint" and is St. Augistine's station in the Orthodox Church. He is a canonized saint of the Catholic Church. If I called him "blessed", my apologies, I should not have

Saint Augustine is a Saint in the Orthodox Church. Saints in the Eastern Orthodox Church can be referred to as "blessed."

10,425 posted on 02/14/2007 8:24:05 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50

I see your point, and maybe "the younger son's 'humility' is false humility" is true. I'm assuming it isn't true, not based on the verses of the parable itself, but on Jesus's lead-in about repentence.

If we assume the younger brother truly repented then that affects the calculation.

Also as far as the "conditioning" to bad behaviour, another consideration: the younger son's experience PRIOR to coming home was not one of positive conditioning. We know that sin is also its own punishment. Sinning boldly results in bold suffering.


10,426 posted on 02/14/2007 8:33:22 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: Forest Keeper

CUTE. As long as it's not THIS Mary (lol). Mxxx


10,427 posted on 02/14/2007 8:39:27 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: annalex

And why we protestants are beware of Catholic teachings...


10,428 posted on 02/14/2007 8:40:38 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; The_Reader_David; Mad Dawg
What about this issue is a tipping point for you? What is your interpretation of verses like the following? : ...

The KJV calls angels in Job 2:1 "sons of God" as well.

10,429 posted on 02/14/2007 8:42:35 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: annalex

We don't exactly ignore the catholic saints. We just believe that God doesn't play favorites and He considers all of us as His saints. Many christians lead remarkable lives too. You don't hear much about them because the media won't print anything good about what christians are doing (and suffering) all over the world.


10,430 posted on 02/14/2007 8:45:08 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: annalex

The church is any body of believers who gather to worship. It's not the Catholic church, annalex. It's not even the building.


10,431 posted on 02/14/2007 8:46:50 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: xzins; kawaii

Nope. I won't answer him anymore.


10,432 posted on 02/14/2007 8:55:00 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: blue-duncan; jo kus; Forest Keeper; kawaii; 1000 silverlings; DungeonMaster; HarleyD; ...
no self respecting religious Jew would add it to the canon

I guess the Apostles were not self-respecting Jews then.

How would you know what the Jewish "magistrerium" was considering that the priests who were in charge of the Temple were Sadducees who died out? We only have morphed Pharisees who re-set the canon in Jamnia.

One of the Jamnia-invented requirements for acceptance of any text was that it be written in Hebrew. For three hundred years many Jews used the Septuagint and not one complaint was heard about it.

Their 'beef' was with Christianity being a 'law-breaking' sect which is actually correct. One of the descriptions of +James by Josephus, the 'brother of the so-called Messiah" is said to have been executed as a 'lawbreaker.'

10,433 posted on 02/14/2007 8:55:29 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: blue-duncan

AMEN, b-d.


10,434 posted on 02/14/2007 8:56:57 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: kosta50

I dunno, I think we have the whole of the Westminster Confession posted in pieces on this thread.

Must have some weight for some groups of Christians.


10,435 posted on 02/14/2007 8:57:47 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr
If we assume the younger brother truly repented then that affects the calculation

I agree, but the way the parable is worded, it looks like he was on his last straw, so to say, before 'repenting.'

We know that sin is also its own punishment.

In the long run, yes, but we are drawn to it because it "feels good and is comfy." It's something we do 'naturally.'

Sinning boldly results in bold suffering

Touché. :)

10,436 posted on 02/14/2007 9:00:52 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: jo kus
When are you getting rid of Revelation???

. why would I want to? It is the revelation of Jesus Christ, the end of prophecy

Rev 22:7

Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book

22:18

For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

10,437 posted on 02/14/2007 9:01:13 PM PST by 1000 silverlings
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To: 1000 silverlings

This has got to be the longest thread in the history of FR! LOL.


10,438 posted on 02/14/2007 9:01:33 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: D-fendr
Must have some weight for some groups of Christians

But thye are not bound by their creeds.

10,439 posted on 02/14/2007 9:02:35 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Mercat

OH? Sex isn't sin? Not within the bounds of marriage, no. Fornicators will NOT see the Kingdom of heaven. Fornication is SIN, Mercat. Homosexuality is SIN, Mercat. Looking at a woman/man with lust is SIN, Mercat.


10,440 posted on 02/14/2007 9:10:20 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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