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Which One God ? ( Comparing the Christian and Muslim Conceptions of God ).
National Review ^ | 12/04/2006 | Bat Yeor

Posted on 12/04/2006 10:22:38 AM PST by SirLinksalot

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To: SirLinksalot

Simple, there is no comparison as there is only one GOD.


41 posted on 12/04/2006 11:34:42 AM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: A. Pole
Allah, Elohim, Eli, Eloah, Ilah etc ... are Semitic words with the same root. They all mean God or Divinity.

Interestingly, "Elohim" is the plural of Eloah.

42 posted on 12/04/2006 11:35:39 AM PST by zimdog
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To: Vaquero

Homer says something like; "Not for nothing Apu but when they were handing out religions your people must of been out taking a whiz."


43 posted on 12/04/2006 11:53:50 AM PST by freefdny
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To: John Philoponus

http://www.chiesa.espressonline.it/dettaglio.jsp?id=7025&eng=y

Read the whole thing, but pay special attention to about halfway down the page. There's a little something about the supposed "virgins" which if true, is going to piss off a lot of Mohammedans.


44 posted on 12/04/2006 12:03:48 PM PST by Romish_Papist
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To: fox martyr son

You need to read a book by John Hagee titled "Jerusalem Countdown". It helps you to understand this!


45 posted on 12/04/2006 12:08:12 PM PST by dforest
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To: fox martyr son
The god of today's ethnic Jews has these characteristics.

Nothing in the Torah,Psalms or prophets supports your statement in fact it contradicts it so many times it is laughable.

Please cite some verses from the Torah that supports your claim or apologize for calling all Jews pagans.

46 posted on 12/04/2006 12:09:40 PM PST by Risha (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: Risha

I don't look to the OT for this position.
The NT is sufficient.
The Lord Jesus Christ is the Jehovah of the OT.
The Jehovah of those who call themselves Jews today is not the Lord Jesus Christ, therefore not the Jehovah of the OT.
Not difficult.


47 posted on 12/04/2006 12:12:49 PM PST by fox martyr son
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To: BMC1

If there is only one God, you wouldn't need to use qualifiers like "Islamic" or "Christian"


48 posted on 12/04/2006 12:16:18 PM PST by zimdog
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To: zimdog

There are an infinite number of gods; only One living.


49 posted on 12/04/2006 12:19:05 PM PST by fox martyr son
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To: rovenstinez
The Arabic word for God is "Allah" and is a legitimate translation of the Aramaic "Eloi."

The Muslim use of the word "Allah" for their god was simply an imitation of the Christian Arab use of "Allah" for God for centuries before Muhammad robbed his first merchant.

50 posted on 12/04/2006 12:23:18 PM PST by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: fox martyr son
Now there's some relativism!
51 posted on 12/04/2006 12:26:26 PM PST by zimdog
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To: wideawake

The Lord Jesus Christ warned of those preaching a different 'Jesus' which Islam does.


52 posted on 12/04/2006 12:27:34 PM PST by fox martyr son
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To: Squidpup

This is an excellent link and resource, thank you for posting it! I have spent the past hour or so reading it, and have hotlisted it for further research, it is very enlightening. Also, in what little research I have done into the "religion" of Islam, I have come to similar conclusions as the author (though he is infinitely more knowledgeable and educated than I!). I always appreciate affirmation when He gives it!


53 posted on 12/04/2006 12:29:03 PM PST by VRWCer ("The Bible is the Rock on which this Republic rests." - President Andrew Jackson)
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To: fox martyr son

That doesn't give anyone any call to denigrate the quality of the New testament translations used by Arab Christians.


54 posted on 12/04/2006 12:31:55 PM PST by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake

It provides clarity to all christians, no matter what language.


55 posted on 12/04/2006 12:34:04 PM PST by fox martyr son
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To: zimdog

In addition to personage definitions of the word "god" there is also a generic definition: "Something that is worshiped, idealized, or followed." Some people put their salvation in money or arms and even some who put their fate in the hands of the devil himself. There are many gods to men who are searching for something outside of themselves. God Himself alluded to these gods we cling to. There is, however, only one living and loving God Who has revealed Himself throughout the ages. We can't know Him while serving them.

Is that a little less relativistic for you?


56 posted on 12/04/2006 12:34:07 PM PST by pgyanke (Gay marriage does to real marriage what counterfeit money does to real money. - Hemogoblin)
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To: pgyanke

Yes.


57 posted on 12/04/2006 12:36:27 PM PST by zimdog
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To: Capt. Tom

http://www.jewsforjesus.org/


58 posted on 12/04/2006 12:37:53 PM PST by Excellence (Vote Dhimmocrat; Submit for Peace! (Bacon bits make great confetti.))
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To: fox martyr son
The Lord Jesus Christ is the Jehovah of the OT.

OK use the New Testament to support this claim.

You are aware of course that Jesus, Paul and all the apostles used the Old Testament to preach.

Something that you refuse to do.

interesting...

59 posted on 12/04/2006 12:39:46 PM PST by Risha (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: fox martyr son; Risha
I don't look to the OT for this position. The NT is sufficient. The Lord Jesus Christ is the Jehovah of the OT. The Jehovah of those who call themselves Jews today is not the Lord Jesus Christ, therefore not the Jehovah of the OT. Not difficult.

I'll second Risha's motion.

If "The NT is sufficient", how does your position differ from one which would hold that the Koran supersedes prior revelations? Jesus, or more properly, Y'shua, based all his teaching upon the Torah, Prophets and Writings, as well as some oral Torah ("you have heard it said") How would you say that Jews of today recognize a different "pagan" "god" than that set forth in those same teachings.

In other words, Torah must be recognized as the basis for instruction about God, the Universe and Everything or one is no better off than a "prophet" who claims that his new personal revelation is better than yours.

60 posted on 12/04/2006 12:52:35 PM PST by yatros from flatwater
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