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MacMillan is a Scottish classical composer. His justified polemics were in the news a few weeks back, and this is the article from which they were taken.
1 posted on 10/24/2006 8:23:06 AM PDT by Dumb_Ox
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To: Dumb_Ox

I would counsel taking it easy on the hysterics. The Gates of Hell ain't gonna prevail against us, much less banal music and meretricious lyrics.


2 posted on 10/24/2006 8:25:44 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Now we are all Massoud)
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To: Dumb_Ox

Bad music is not limited to one church, but is universally accepted these days.


3 posted on 10/24/2006 8:27:04 AM PDT by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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All music created by mechanical instruments is without authority in Christian worship.


4 posted on 10/24/2006 8:28:33 AM PDT by jkl1122
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"Bad Music is Destroying the Church."

Sorry...it'll take more than that.

Actually I'm not sorry at all.

8 posted on 10/24/2006 8:37:15 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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Bad Music is Destroying the Church

Yeah, they haven't had a decent album since Starfish.

10 posted on 10/24/2006 8:40:38 AM PDT by dirtboy (Good fences make good neighbors)
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"Cultural vandalism" describes it perfectly.
35 posted on 10/24/2006 9:15:20 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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It isn't just the music. There is good and bad taste in tunes, but the real problem is the theology of the songs. I am a Lutheran and our hymns have been rightly called "singing icons" in that the old hymns really teach theology to tune. The old Catholic hymns used to.

Now, they sound like so much pop culture pablum, and at times are not only bad theology but 100% out of phase. So going back to the old hymns is a good idea.
37 posted on 10/24/2006 9:19:03 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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All music was, at some point, contemporary music.

The purpose of music is to support the people's worship. In another words, the musicians serve to help lead worship. They are not there to put on a concert- whether rock or classical or vocal- in the middle of the service.


42 posted on 10/24/2006 9:21:43 AM PDT by bobjam
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As a convert, I missed all the so-called beautiful, worshipful music of the past, but with the voices we have in our small parish they would butcher them if they sang them now. There is one woman who can sing a passable Ave Maria when she's on but when she's not, you cry for the wrong reason.


45 posted on 10/24/2006 9:23:01 AM PDT by tiki
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I'm waiting for the day the church adopts "Jesus Christ Superstar" as part of their repertoire... "who in the hell do you think you are" for secularists and Marxists to sing along to. That might get these people in the door and then the conversion starts...

Actually, I really don't put too much stock in music to change lives or the world. It didn't work for John Lennon. Music is a great comfort but the spirit behind it could be anything, not necessarily the short-hand of the holy spirit. To say one form is good and another bad is in some ways to miss the point -- pure music can never express qualities such as love, tenderness or grace. We get those cues mostly from lyrics. Forms in themselves are meaningless.
81 posted on 10/24/2006 9:57:18 AM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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I loved the comment by a Freeper (whose name I don't remember) on modern
church music:

"If it's been written since 1965, it's crap!"


94 posted on 10/24/2006 10:17:37 AM PDT by VOA
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Bad music is destroying Nashville, TN, Too.


121 posted on 10/24/2006 11:48:51 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell ( I predict a victory for Republicans that will make Dims remember 1994 as a very good year for them.)
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self ping


143 posted on 10/24/2006 1:24:53 PM PDT by hemogoblin
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144 posted on 10/24/2006 1:25:27 PM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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Oi.

You modernists still use that Organ.

;p

(Orthodox, and quite happy with church music)


153 posted on 10/24/2006 5:42:47 PM PDT by kawaii ((Orthodox, and quite happy with church music))
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Kumbaya bump


162 posted on 10/24/2006 10:20:58 PM PDT by Dajjal
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Rock musicians have hijacked the faith. Seems like everybody's got Jesus these days.


214 posted on 10/25/2006 9:51:42 AM PDT by Gotterdammerung
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Bad Religion is destroying the music, too.

245 posted on 10/25/2006 3:29:12 PM PDT by x
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I played the bagpipe at a wedding in a Catholic Church. I am not Catholic, but I grew up in New Mexico and have great respect for the faith.

The bride asked me: "Is the music Liturgical?"

I said: "Yes. Yes it is."

I have no ideal....

259 posted on 10/25/2006 8:34:20 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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"Many of those who were not subdued into a state of quietism defected to Anglican and Lutheran parishes where their skills as organists, choral directors and singers were greatly appreciated."

This was obviously before most Lutheran churches had regressed into the current rampant hootenanism of happy-clappy "praise songs" that are so bad that I can picture God putting His fingers in His ears. Lutherans trading their magnificent musical heritage of Bach and Johann Franck and Martin Luther for today's light-weight ditties brings to mind Esau, trading his birth-right for a bowl of stew. It is to weep.


300 posted on 10/26/2006 1:10:23 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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