Darwin on the Right: Why Christians and conservatives should accept evolution

Scientific American ^ | October 2006 issue | Michael Shermer

[stands2reason]

LOL

[Gordongekko909]

I don't know anywhere near enough about Gresham's Law, or monetary policy for that matter, to answer that question. Not even after reading the Wikipedia article on it. So I'm going to give you a "probably not quite" there.

[Gumlegs]

Checking Wikipedia for "cheap puns" might get you closer.

Sorry.

[Tax-chick]

My point was simply that this person's arguments weren't going to add any information to the decision-making process, in my opinion.

[Dimensio]

Since there were not "enough" transitional form fossils these changes must have happened so fast there was no time to leave a fossil record.

You are incorrect. There exists an extensive fossil record that, thus far, supports common descent.

[stands2reason]

Do you believe God's image is physical? That God is some kind of superhuman?

[srweaver]

What is the prototype insect from which all others descended?

what is the prototype mammal, from which all others descended?

Be specific, please.

[Dimensio]

http://www.allaboutthejourney.org/fossil-record.htm

The third sentence -- not including the out-of-context quotes from Charles Darwin -- is "Nearly 150 years later, there has been no evidence of evolutionary transition found thus far in the fossil record." This statement is demonstratably false. An essay that opens with such an obviously false claim is clearly either not well researched or not written with honest intent.

[Dimensio]

What is the prototype insect from which all others descended?

what is the prototype mammal, from which all others descended?

Why do you expect there to be a determined answer to these questions?

[highball]

ICR?

We need scientific research here. An advocacy group doesn't count, unless you're also willing to treat PFLAG's website as a valid scientific authority on homosexuality.

[Gordongekko909]

Oh. Specie. Just got it. Hoo boy, that's a knee-slapper. ::slaps knee::

[srweaver]

The website you directed to states:

"Usually there are still gaps between each of the groups -- few or none of the speciation events are preserved."

Thre are changes within species, microevolution, as any dog or horse breeder can tell you, but we still seem to be missing credible transitional form info except for those who choose to believe in evolution.

[srweaver]

Just trying to point out that you have chosen to have faith in macroevolution, as you CANNOT demonstrate it from the fossil record.

[jwalsh07]

"Much of Christian morality has to do with human relationships, most notably truth telling and marital fidelity, because the violation of these principles causes a severe breakdown in trust, which is the foundation of family and community. Evolution describes how we developed into pair-bonded primates and how adultery violates trust. Likewise, truth telling is vital for trust in our society, so lying is a sin."

So much for the selfish gene.

[stands2reason]

Thank you. I've been running into creationists who insist the image is physical, that God has a body that ours resemble.

I find the idea animistic and paganistic.

Yet I don't think these people are in a specific denomination that accepts that as dogma; in fact, I don't know of any denomination that has that as a tenet.

Could be just ignorance on my part though.

[Dimensio]

Thre are changes within species, microevolution, as any dog or horse breeder can tell you, but we still seem to be missing credible transitional form info except for those who choose to believe in evolution.

Perhaps you could explain where you see deficiencies in the fossil record that lend credible doubt to the theory of evolution.

[Dimensio]

Just trying to point out that you have chosen to have faith in macroevolution, as you CANNOT demonstrate it from the fossil record.

The existence of credible evidence for common descent does not logically imply that there exists an identification of the "first" mammal or insect organisms.

[Junior]

If they accept macroevolution they believe God is a liar.

So, your god is a book? On the one hand you have a book that claims to be the Word of God, but is demonstrably false, and on the other you have verifiable evidence and observation.

Proof positive, ladies and gentlemen, that some Christians actually worship the Bible and not God.

[Rodm]

Mark 10:5-7 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

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5And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.

6But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

7For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;

[Heartlander]

Who is advocating the mixing science and religion here? A Scientific American article by Michael Shermer ?

FYI …