Posted on 08/31/2006 8:24:33 AM PDT by NYer
They lied to me. I figured a non-priest couldn't give me any more of a blessing than saying "gesundheit" when I sneezed, but they told me that they could.
This is harsh, but they are apostate and if they haven't confessed they should not receive communion. They can have their nibbles in their own churches. The Episcopal church did not used to be an open table...
Ah, so it's one of that very small number of instances where we Antiochians follow the Slavic rather than the Greek usage. (I used to know two others, but I've forgotten what they are.)
Not necessarily. There is an amusing story from Old Russia about its application to priests:
In a seminary class led by the local archbishop, the canons surrounding the celebration of the Eucharist were being taught. When the requirement to abstain from marital relations from Vespers the night before was brought up, one young seminarian was quite upset.
"But. . .but. . .Fr. Sergei, back in my village. . .he celebrates liturgy every morning. . . you mean he never. . . "
The archbishop (himself a celibate, like all Orthodox bishops) looked over his glasses at the young man, and asked, "And for what purpose did the Good Lord make the afternoon?"
I really liked receiving a blessing...and I used the option when a few weeks ago I couldn't make it to Confession and knew that I shouldn't receive the Eucharist. I am going to consult the Catechism to see what it says. I assumed that if we were doing this it was OK.
He shamed them into standing up. It takes something to shame those two.I remember thinking the only way they got into the cathedral was because the cardinal was dead
Do you remember after flight 800 went down, Clinton said he was going to come to NYC and comfort the families. As I recall the cardinal told him if he did, he would not be seen with him. I also remember he would not allow Gerald Ferrio (sp) to speak in the cathedral.
They dont make they like that anymore.
I always thought Rudy was what made NY so appealing to me; that he made NY great -- even though he cross dressed on Saturday Nite Live, even though he was liberal to the rest of us, Rudy said, "Not in my city!" to the sickening sacrilege that was on its way to one of the museums late in the 1990's...and Rudy was the right man to be in charge of NY on 9/11...he is a human being first, a politician second, and I value that...
But, on reflection, perhaps what made NY great to me is Cardinal O'Connor; and perhaps he is what made Rudy great, too.
Oh, yes they do! JPII's kids...just watch 'em.
"Ah, so it's one of that very small number of instances where we Antiochians follow the Slavic rather than the Greek usage. (I used to know two others, but I've forgotten what they are.)"
Must be an American/Slav thing. We have a number of young, old country Lebanese who don't cross their arms (nor do our resident Ethiopians or the lone Egyptian), but now that you mention it, we have a young American Antiochian woman who attends the Liturgy at our parish during the college year and she does cross her arms...but we all still have to know to give the priest our name if he doesn't know it, rather like the lodge password! :)
"In the Eastern Catholic Churches, the children accompany their parents up for communion. The priest blesses each child by touching the communion cup to their head. It is a beautiful and reverent practice that recognizes them as members of the congregation. I have never seen an adult go up though, for a blessing."
That's nearly the way an Orthodox priest would bless someone who wasn't Orthodox or for some reason (cohabiting for example)would be barred from Communion. In Orthodoxy, "First Communion", along with Chrismation, is given at Baptism. I have seen Orthodox priests simply bless adults on a number of occassions, the majority of which I suspect because of some irregularity of life or life style of which the priest is aware.
"The archbishop (himself a celibate, like all Orthodox bishops) looked over his glasses at the young man, and asked, "And for what purpose did the Good Lord make the afternoon?""
That's absolutely wonderful!!!!!!!!!
It was really very very funny, but at one point GW got serious and called all to remember the late Cardinal O Connor and his respect for life.
The audience were on their feet cheering.
It was a wonderful moment.
I was speaking with someone who is something of an insider regarding the dinner and if I recall correctly they decided not to invite the candidates in 04 because Kerry would have to be permitted to speak.
This is the 'slippery slope' of instituting EMHCs. Some approach this ministry with the proper dignity and respect it deserves; others view it as volunteer work and others as a power trip. This ministry has led to so many abuses that belittle the Sacrament. There really is no need for this ministry. I once watched two priests distribute communion - and only on the tongue! - to a church packed with 400+ congregants. It took no more than 15 minutes. What's the big rush, anyway?
This ministry also feeds into the agendas of certain bishops who downplay the role of the priest. They justify this by claiming that few young men are interested in ordination (this, after they turn away the more orthodox youth).
So now that Salvation has provided you with the information regarding EMHCs, it's incumbent on you to share it with those in your parish. Good luck ;-)
I wonder why the African priest gave Clinton Holy Communion, knowing Clinton was not a Catholic.
You're right! They weren't all Roman Catholic. For the first 1000 years following the death and resurrection of our Lord, ALL christians were Catholic, from both Roman and Eastern Rites.
One of our Melkite parishioners always approaches communion with her arms crossed.
Oh, you know us wacky Southern Baptists. After carrying around our "big bibles", our arms are too tired to cross them. The Methodists (Bush) obviously don't have this problem.
And, equally, for the first 1000 years all Christians were Orthodox (except the ones I wouldn't call Orthodox, and you wouldn't call Catholic either--Arians, pneumatomachians, monophysites, Nestorians, Montanists, Paulicans, . . .).
Sure they do! Some, like Fr. Altier, are silenced by their bishops. Others are bishops! Do a google search on Bishop Frederick Henry. Gotta love him!
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