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Plan B... What Next?
Episcoblog ^ | 8/25/20 | Bp. Leo Michael

Posted on 08/26/2006 6:12:08 PM PDT by sionnsar

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To: marajade
Is it abortion or not? Coward. Its not in the Bible.

HUH? You aren't making any sense! Take two aspirins and call me in the morning.

141 posted on 08/27/2006 8:22:06 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: marajade; Pyro7480
Neither the manufacturer of this pill nor the Catholic Church knows if it prevents implantation.

Pyro, don't listen to her on this. She's been told at least 5 times now the Church's position on this and she still insists on telling exactly the opposite of what they say on the USCCB website:

USCCB New Release Plan B

142 posted on 08/27/2006 8:25:41 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: marajade
Is it an abortion or not? OT.

"Did not he that made me in the womb make him also: and did not one and the same form me in the womb?" Job 31:15

"Thus saith the Lord that made and formed thee, thy helper from the womb: Fear not, O my servant Jacob, and thou most righteous whom I have chosen." Isaias 44:2

"And now saith the Lord, that formed me from the womb to be his servant, that I may bring back Jacob unto him, and Israel will not be gathered together: and I am glorified in the eyes of the Lord, and my God is made my strength."Isaias 49:5

Any time there is the possibility that God's creation is being formed in the womb, you have NO right to destroy it with a pill. Try to wiggle your way out of that one Marajade.

143 posted on 08/27/2006 9:03:30 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Pyro7480; marajade
Actually, there is a major difference in Plan B and regular contraception pills. The regular oral contraceptive pills are designed to both block release of an ovum AND generate a less favorable environment in the female uterus. Plan B is designed ONLY to prevent implantation, though it is not perfectly certain yet whether the single ingredient in the Plan B regimen can interfere with a conceptus implantation process, but at this point it doesn't appear to do so.
144 posted on 08/27/2006 9:51:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: FJ290

Unless its implanted its not in the womb.


145 posted on 08/28/2006 2:18:42 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
Unless its implanted its not in the womb.

Is that suppose to make it okay? Here's something you should know:

Dr. Gene Rudd of the Christian Medical Association, the nation's largest faith- based association of doctors, said in a press release that the FDA’s decision gives a “politically motivated definition of pregnancy” and violates the “violates the crucial medical principle of informed consent”.

“Many women in America would not take it if they realized that it can have the effect of preventing a fertilized ovum--a living human embryo--from implanting in the womb and having a chance to be born, said Dr. Rudd.

Pro-life spokesmen have pointed out that not only does Plan-B act as an “emergency contraceptive” by preventing the release of an egg for fertilization, but that it causes the abortion of an already conceived human embryo by making the womb’s nourishing endometrium hostile to implantation.

FDA Approves Plan B Abortifacient for Over-the-Counter

146 posted on 08/28/2006 2:29:56 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: FJ290

I hate to burst your bubble but women regularly release fertilized eggs rather than them being implanted during their menstrual cycles. In fact, more are released than implanted.


147 posted on 08/28/2006 2:34:09 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
I hate to burst your bubble but women regularly release fertilized eggs rather than them being implanted during their menstrual cycles. In fact, more are released than implanted.

I hate to burst your bubble, but you don't seem to know the facts of life. That is not true. What prevents fertilized eggs from being implanted would be health issues or using a drug, like Plan B, LOL.

148 posted on 08/28/2006 2:49:18 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: FJ290

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/tgr/08/2/gr080207.html

"Between one-third and one-half of all fertilized eggs never fully implant. A pregnancy is considered to be established only after implantation is complete."


149 posted on 08/28/2006 2:52:56 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

I don't see that the article really proved your point. Implantation can be prevented due to many factors, like drugs, spermicides, health issues, etc.


150 posted on 08/28/2006 3:01:31 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: FJ290

If those had been the reasons why fertilized eggs had not implanted, 1/3 to 1/2, of them they would have included those reasons, they didn't.

To follow your logic many healthy women are having miscarriages in truly outstanding and huge numbers. I just don't believe that to the case.


151 posted on 08/28/2006 3:04:45 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
To follow your logic many healthy women are having miscarriages in truly outstanding and huge numbers. I just don't believe that to the case.

Well actually Marajade, that would be more YOUR logic wouldn't it? You're the one that claimed that women are releasing fertilized eggs all on their own every month!

152 posted on 08/28/2006 3:12:59 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: FJ290

Science says it.


153 posted on 08/28/2006 3:29:24 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
Science says it.

Ok, science says how many fertilized eggs get released each month? Give me an exact figure. I'll be waiting patiently.

154 posted on 08/28/2006 3:33:13 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: FJ290

Women have about 1,000,000 eggs over a life time. You figure it out.


155 posted on 08/28/2006 3:46:33 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
Women have about 1,000,000 eggs over a life time. You figure it out.

Women only have about 300 eggs in their reproductive years and according to several sites I visited only 2 are released during ovulation each month, one from each ovary!

"As a woman ages, there are normal changes that occur in her ovaries and eggs. All women are born with over a million eggs in their ovaries (all the eggs that they will ever have), but only have about 300,000 left by puberty. Then of these, only about 300 eggs will be ovulated during the reproductive years. Even though menstrual cycles continue to be regular in a woman's 30s and 40s, the eggs that ovulate each month are of poorer quality than those from her 20s. It is harder to get pregnant when the eggs are poorer in quality."

Women's Health.Gov

From the same website:

"As you approach menopause, your ovaries don't respond as well to your hormones, and in time they may not release an egg each month."

156 posted on 08/28/2006 4:01:28 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: FJ290

So what's your point?


157 posted on 08/28/2006 5:52:42 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
So what's your point?

What's yours in relation to stopping a life that God creates? Please, pray tell give me your answer because you never have.

We can keep posting websites giving various points of data, but when it gets right down to the nitty gritty and that egg is fertilized and is getting ready to be implanted, but Plan B stops it.. what right does anyone have to prevent that from happening?

158 posted on 08/28/2006 10:04:07 PM PDT by FJ290
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