Posted on 06/03/2006 3:08:12 PM PDT by NYer
As DV commented above, NY has an unfair distribution of ultra leftist bishops, spread out across the entire state. That leaves very few places for refuge. Given your previous experience with Bishop Kmiec, you can then appreciate the agony suffered by many catholics in this state. The bishops of Albany and Rochester, were appointed 28+ years ago, at the recommendation of Archbishop Jean Jadot. Other men who became bishops under Jadot's tenure include former Santa Fe Archbishop Roberto Sanchez, who resigned in a sex scandal; former San Jose Bishop Pierre DuMaine; former HonoluluBishop Joseph Ferrario; San Antonio Archbishop Patrick Flores; former Newark Archbishop Peter Gerety; Joliet, Ill., Bishop Joseph Imesch; Louisille Archbishop Thomas C. Kelly, O.P., a former staffer at the apostolic nuncio under Jadot; Bernard Cardinal Law of Boston (whom Jadot selected as bishop for Springfield-Cape Girardeau, Mo.), Cincinnati Archbishop Daniel Pilarczyk; Saginaw, Mich., Bishop Kenneth Untener - to name a few more - all of whom, supposedly, mirrored his own progressive image as a "man of the people."
Yep. Sorry, but Arabic-speaking Christians address their prayers to "Allah". NYer can probably confirm that for us.
The word simply means "God" or "the God".
Even if you accept a modern Muslim's conception of Allah as a monotheistic being instead of chief of a polytheistic religion, the character of the diety circumscribed by the term "Allah" and the term "Jehovah" are radically different.
That is quite true. Catholic theologian Scott Hahn was once debating (in public) with a Muslim. Dr. Hahn kept referring to "God the Father" this and "God the Father" that. Finally, the Muslim angrily interjected "Allah is not "Father". Allah is master!"
And that about sums up the central difference between Islam and Christianity.
The fallacy of Islam is not that they worship a false God. They worship the one true God. Thus, any Arabic-speaking Christian could safely pray "in the name of God, the merciful and compassionate." It's not unlike the way St. Paul established a rapport with the Athenians who worshipped "an unknown God." St. Paul didn't rail against the Athenians for worshipping a moon-diety or some similar fundamentalist nonsense - rather, he took the Athenians' claims at face value, used them as a starting point, and built from there.
It is simply false that Muslims worship the "moon god." They truly worship the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Jesus. The do so deficiently, since they have no conception of either the Trinity or the atonement. That deficiency, however, doesn't invalidate their legitimate claim to be worshipping God. Especially since Arabic Christians since time immemorial worship God under the name Allah.
Well phrased.
Dear jude24,
That's close to how Catholics think about this. We believe that Muslims worship the true God falsely.
We believe that knowledge that there is one true God can come from human reason unaided by supernatural grace. One can know with unaided human reason that the one God is omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent.
This is what Islam believes. It is clear that the object of Muslim worship is the true God. But Islam, being a false religion of a false revelation by a false prophet, can teach little beyond what can be known by reason. Thus, the nature of God that is discovered only through Divine Revelation is impenetrable to Islam.
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And it's not just the muzlims...
There's a lot of religion in that little ecumenical group but there's not a Christian in the whole bunch...
It is a basic characteristic of the left wing to infiltrate perfectly legitimate organizations, and take them over.
They've done that with "environmental" groups.
In the 1890's the Sierra Club consisted of people who liked to go hiking.
The current crop of leftwing "environmentalists" running the same group have never strayed 10 feet from their cars.
The same in what were once perfectly legitimate animal lover's groups, book lover's library associations, etc etc etc.
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