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JOHN MACARTHUR AND THE BLOOD OF CHRIST?
Plains Baptist Challenger ^ | unknown | E.L. Bynum, others

Posted on 05/21/2006 2:04:31 PM PDT by Full Court

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To: 1000 silverlings
Well you might ask your new friend Dangus about that.

News to me.

But the more I discuss SCRIPTURE with someone, the more they will have to read IT.

Did you ever not think THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD THING???

Timothy 3:15  And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Titus 1:9  Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.

121 posted on 05/24/2006 2:41:10 PM PDT by Full Court (¶Let no man deceive you by any means)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; P-Marlowe; Full Court; 1000 silverlings

>> Does it not give you pause to wonder why it is that the Catholics are praising you for posting this thread? <<

Oh, cool! It's backwards day! We get to play where Calvinists have to believe the opposite of everything that Catholics say!!
OK, here goes:
Total depravity is really coooool!
The planned eternal torture of 99% is necessary to show the 1% how much God loves them!
Hierarchy? We don't need no hierarchy!

Seriously, not that Full Court is a broken clock, (I think it is so silly I have to say that, but with this crowd apparently I have to) but even a broken clock is right twice a day.


122 posted on 05/24/2006 2:41:32 PM PDT by dangus
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To: AlbionGirl
But wasn't Christ, as the Pascal Lamb, the final Sacrifice which began with Abel's sacrifice? And wasn't the blood both of Abel's sacrifice and Christ's significant as that which atoned for sin? St. Paul refers to the Blood of Christ a lot. Do I have all of that wrong?

You have it right.

Do a word search for blood using www.justbible.com.

It's so clear!!

Thanks for your input, I enjoy it!

123 posted on 05/24/2006 2:42:58 PM PDT by Full Court (¶Let no man deceive you by any means)
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To: Full Court
"When Scripture says we're redeemed by the blood (1 Pet. 1:18-19), it is not speaking of a bowl of blood in heaven. It means we're saved by Christ's sacrificial death."

FC, I think I basically agree with your take on the Precious Blood, but do you really think the above statement is heretical? I don't see heresy there, I see a man who doesn't want the Blood elevated above His Death. I don't separate them in my mind, but the reason he probably does is because they've already been separated and he seems to see that as a problem.

124 posted on 05/24/2006 2:43:55 PM PDT by AlbionGirl
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To: Full Court
They certainly would not attract the same crowd.

Now here you are making statements you know absolutely nothing about. They are the same crowd. Women can attend Bob Jones U, but at present, I believe the Master's programs are men only. That is the only difference.

125 posted on 05/24/2006 2:44:01 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings
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To: 1000 silverlings
No, he uses the NKJV as well. FYI I am NKJV myself.

He may use it now, but when I listened to him, he used the NSAB and published an NSAB study bible.

126 posted on 05/24/2006 2:44:37 PM PDT by Full Court (¶Let no man deceive you by any means)
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To: Full Court; dangus
News to me.

Doesn't matter. Dangus at least, was a gentleman about the whole thing.

127 posted on 05/24/2006 2:46:19 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings
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To: 1000 silverlings
I find it quite disingenuous of you to now be attacking PMarlowe,

You might find it interesting to actually read the things he has said to me rather than make a false claim.

I don't have to put up with him declaring what I should or should not post, and I do not have to put up with him ascribing motives to me which are not true.

Now, I should like to discuss issues, not people. If you would like to do the same, we can continue.

If not, don't ping me. Thanks. :-)

128 posted on 05/24/2006 2:48:12 PM PDT by Full Court (¶Let no man deceive you by any means)
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To: Full Court

Well that is certainly reason to condemn the man. I wonder how many Christians here also use the NIV?


129 posted on 05/24/2006 2:49:07 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings
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To: 1000 silverlings
Now here you are making statements you know absolutely nothing about. They are the same crowd. Women can attend Bob Jones U, but at present, I believe the Master's programs are men only. That is the only difference.

One of the schools I taught at was a feeder school for BJU, so I am quite familiar with them.

Master's does not accept women in certain programs. BJU does not either.

BJU uses the KJV as an authortative Bible. Master's does not.

For that reason, most Independent baptist reject Master's.

130 posted on 05/24/2006 2:50:38 PM PDT by Full Court (¶Let no man deceive you by any means)
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To: AlbionGirl

I'm not saying that he isn't saved, I am just saying he is wrong on that point. :-)


131 posted on 05/24/2006 2:52:34 PM PDT by Full Court (¶Let no man deceive you by any means)
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To: Gamecock

>> Indeed, if all he needed to do was bleed, his circumcision would have fit the bill. (But that is what some RCs have said.) <<

What the ???

Seriously, can you please quit representing the Catholic Church by the bizarre rantings of some heretics who claim to be actually Catholic?

Aren't you Presbyterian? Would you like some of the fruitcakes at the PCA to represent Calvinism? FYI, the necessity of the death of Christ for our redemption is acclaimed at every mass by every Catholic, durig the Eucharistic Prayer.


132 posted on 05/24/2006 2:53:31 PM PDT by dangus
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To: 1000 silverlings
Well that is certainly reason to condemn the man.

I believe the KJV is the only accurate Bible. That's my belief. Because I disagree with JM I am now a bad person???

133 posted on 05/24/2006 2:54:17 PM PDT by Full Court (¶Let no man deceive you by any means)
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To: Full Court; P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; fortheDeclaration

Yes, Full Court, and now I'm a liar. You are really sorting out the impure from the church, at least I'm up there in good company with the liar, JM.


134 posted on 05/24/2006 2:54:59 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings
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To: Gamecock

>> Indeed, if all he needed to do was bleed, his circumcision would have fit the bill. (But that is what some RCs have said.) <<

>Seriously, can you please quit representing the Catholic Church by the bizarre rantings of some heretics who claim to be actually Catholic? <

And I am extending an enormous benefit of the doubt, despite my own bewilderment at the statement, that a Catholic actually did state that, rather than being something Jack Chick claims a priest secretly confided in to an anonymous source.


135 posted on 05/24/2006 2:55:38 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Full Court
I'm not saying that he isn't saved, I am just saying he is wrong on that point. :-)

I realize that. Take it easy FC, and God bless.

136 posted on 05/24/2006 2:56:17 PM PDT by AlbionGirl
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To: Full Court; P-Marlowe

Why don't you just reply to this?


137 posted on 05/24/2006 2:58:53 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings
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To: 1000 silverlings; Full Court; P-Marlowe

>> You're cherry picking. The whole statement thatPmarlowe posted says more, i.e. <<

I mean, after all, it's totally unfair to quote anyone, without including a completely gratuitous slander on Catholicism! :^P :^D

Actually, the quote was going pretty accurately until it tripped over this outrageous statement:

>> They claim that the blood of Christ was never truly human. <<

Many Catholics died at the hands of Roman persecution (eeven after the supposed ecclesial take-over of Constantine) defending the assertion that Christ was fully human, blood and all.


138 posted on 05/24/2006 3:01:47 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

dear Dangus, transubstantiation is a fundamental difference in our religions. It is not a slander, it is a fact.


139 posted on 05/24/2006 3:04:48 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings
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To: Campion; Full Court

>> P.S.- Do these guys not have Hebrews 9:11-22 in their Bibles, or what? <<

Actually, Campion, one of the interesting things about 5-sola Protestantism is that the central historical person in disseminating most of these notions, Martin Luther, acknowledged that the bible absolutely disproved him. Rather than acknowledging he was wrong to make his assertions, however, he responded by insisting that the portions of the bible which refuted him must be unholy additions to the bible, and thus declared that the Book of Hebrews was not biblical, along with James, 1-2-3 John, 1-2 Peter, Revelations and the deuterocanonicals.


140 posted on 05/24/2006 3:11:07 PM PDT by dangus
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