Posted on 05/04/2006 6:26:10 AM PDT by NYer
That sounds wonderful!
Can the TLM be done in churches without altar rails?
This church, though it was built in 1970, has an altar rail.
I don't see why not. Prie dieus could be used, if any are on hand.
Mwa haa haaaa.....
And thus it spreads...(rubbing hands with evil grin)
LOL
Ahem, the author could do a little homework. The feast of Pope St. Pius V in the old calendar is May 5th. That is quite a miracle if they celebrated Mass tomorrow.
They meant the new calendar. The priest who offered the Mass mentioned this in his homily.
I understood that. My point was if you're using the Missal of 1962 you should also be using the calendar that was in effect in 1962. The FSSP Liturgical Ordo has the Feast of Pope St. Pius V on May 5th. Maybe the celebrant and pastor need a copy of the Ordo.
I don't think the priest actually celebrated the Mass of St. Pius V on Sunday. I read that as his mentioning the occurence of the feast.
Of course, in both calendars, the Mass of St. Pius V would not be allowed to be celebrated on a Sunday (Third Class Feast vs. Second Class Sunday), unless in some particular places, St. Pius V is a First Class Feast.
Also, this kind of situation proves again that an FSSP or similiar Trad-only priest is preferable to a priest who celebrates both rites. The former has a clear understanding of the 1962 Ordo and all the other trappings that go with the TLM. With the latter, you will have the Mass only with none of the accompanying liturgical mentalities and trappings.
I don't think so, either. However, he referred to the feast according to the current liturgical calendar. IMHO, it is akin to mixing rites.
I have regularly attended Novus Ordo mass in English and Latin in a new and modern chapel where communion is always distributed from a "prie Dieu" (portable kneeler).
>>I have regularly attended Novus Ordo mass in English and Latin in a new and modern chapel where communion is always distributed from a "prie Dieu" (portable kneeler).<<
Eight kneelers at the front of our church used for three weekday masses and six on Sunday.
*Poor kid musta belonged to a Parish that had fallen into authentic liturgical desuetude.
The Mass is the Mass is the Mass. Since the First Mass, the Last Supper, Mass/Eucharist has always been about we redeemed Christians gathering at the altar with the Priest to offer the pluperfect sacrifice of the New Covenant to God as an act of propitiation and to participate in the New Covenant Meal/Heavenly Banquet.
I am one who thinks the Pauline Rite has restored the proper balance twixt New Covenant Sacrifice and New Covenant Meal. And, of course that means a restored lay participation at mass that, prior to the reform, had become a legalistic and calcified clerical-centered act.
At least that is one man's opinion; one raised in the old Ordo Missae days.
P.S. The Liturgy of the early church was much more like the Liturgy described in the Apocalypse... (that is why the Catechism categorizes as "The Mass of all times" the ancient Liturgy which the Pauline Rite so resembles)
And when he had opened the book, the four living creatures, and the four and twenty ancients fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints: 9 And they sung a new canticle, saying: Thou art worthy, O Lord, to take the book, and to open the seals thereof; because thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God, in thy blood, out of every tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation. 10 And hast made us to our God a kingdom and priests, and we shall reign on the earth.
11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne, and the living creatures, and the ancients; and the number of them was thousands of thousands, 12 Saying with a loud voice: The Lamb that was slain is worthy to receive power, and divinity, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and benediction. 13 And every creature, which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them: I heard all saying: To him that sitteth on the throne, and to the Lamb, benediction, and honour, and glory, and power, for ever and ever. 14 And the four living creatures said: Amen. And the four and twenty ancients fell down on their faces, and adored him that liveth for ever and ever.
*Not much silence in the Heavenly Liturgy. Nor should there be for we Easter Christians. Of course I am NOT opposed to moments of silence in the Liturgy
All that having been said, I am delighted these folks have access to the Indult. Any Liturgy approved for celebration by Holy Mother Church is of incomparable spiritual value to the individual, the Body of Christ, and to the entire world.
=D
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