Billy Graham's Disobedience to the Word of God

Way of Life ^ | Not sure | David Cloud

[Quix]

If you do NOT believe in end times scenarios . . .

how can you claim to believe The Bible?

[Full Court]

No doubt that some of what you said is correct.

But it is also the duty of the watchman on the wall to sound the alarm when deception and apostasy creep into the church.

[Ramius]

At least you're getting funnier, if not smarter. :-)

[cva66snipe]

That site I linked is a hoot, by the way. Makes Bro. Cloud look like a complete liberal. It condemns Catholics and Lutherans both as cultists, but seems to single out Congressman Ron Paul for special praise.

Thanks for the clarification. Next he'll pull a certain persons disability ministry out of his hat also :>}

[DaveMSmith]

Yeah I know... my wife walked by and asked if I was looking at a porn site when I had the homepage up LOL!

[Quix]

If Billy, as I construe it--with just as much logic, if not more, than your construction on his statements . . .

If Billy, as I construe it--is talking about more or less rare exceptions to the rule . . .

the general rule; the general pattern is not trashed.

God still has His preferred ways, requirements.

But God Himself broke out of His own boundaries throughout His Word.

David and the shewbread, for example . . .

God will simply not fit in any man construed box--even one based ostensibly on valid Scriptures.

[Full Court]

How you lived your life will not matter, because no matter how hard you tird, you are still a sinner.

One sin is enough to send you to Hell.

Trying hard isn't how one gets to Heaven.

Romans 5:6  ¶For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

7  For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.

8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

9  Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

10  For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

11  And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

[Full Court]

I will have to speak with you about it later.

[Ramius]

But it is also the duty of the watchman on the wall to sound the alarm when deception and apostasy creep into the church.

Why thank you. We get so little credit these days out here on the wall. I'll pass it along.

[cva66snipe]

Nevertheless, she learned the Gosple of Jesus Christ just like she learned everything else that she knew. That would be through hand language. It was not necessary for her to physical hear and physical see in order for her to understand, only to be taught like everyone else. Seeing and hearing were not the methods by which she received communication but I would venture to say that she had a better understanding of the Gospel than most people posting on this thread.

I think some of her abilities to understand and comprehend were from GOD. Many persons with such limitations never get that far.

[Full Court]

God will simply not fit in any man construed box--even one based ostensibly on valid Scriptures.

The Scripture is not man made. And if they are not true, that makes God a liar.

[Full Court]

Too bad you are just now finding that out.

[Full Court]

Maybe so, but she was not a Christian.

[Alamo-Girl]

That is a perfect Scripture selection for this thread, dear Knitting! All of the law and the prophets hang on two commandments:

Master, which [is] the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment.

And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. – Matthew 22:36-40

For the conversation which has followed: Concerning the unborn, the handicapped, the primitive, the ones (such as Abraham) who never heard the Gospel, we should remember that mercy and compassion is at God's discretion:

For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. – Romans 9:15

[Quix]

You are the one who seems to make God out a liar about:

HE WHO SEEKS ME SHALL FIND ME.

night night.

[Full Court]

Yes, I believe those that seek Him will find Him.

[tenn2005]

I think some of her abilities to understand and comprehend were from GOD. Many persons with such limitations never get that far.

As I said, she was a remarkable woman but God communicated with her through His word just like He comminucates with everyone else. If you will read her bio you will find that she was taught the scriptures just like she was taught everythings else.

Many persons with such limitations never get that far either because they do not have a dedicated teacher as she did, or they are not as interested in rising above their handicaps as she was.

[alamo boy]

yes, indeed and the next verse says...

So then [it is] not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

... we have a merciful God

nite all

[Full Court]

the primitive, the ones (such as Abraham) who never heard the Gospel

Romans 4:2  For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

Romans 4:3  For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

Romans 4:16  Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,