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April 23, 2006 | Religion Moderator

Posted on 04/23/2006 8:01:06 AM PDT by Religion Moderator

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To: Thatcherite; ToryHeartland; hosepipe
I think our British friends would object to their government being described as mob rule.
281 posted on 04/29/2006 9:42:42 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: betty boop

So very true on all points! Thank you for your insights!


282 posted on 04/29/2006 9:51:10 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: curiosity; betty boop; hosepipe
Actually, given how the courts have twisted the meaning of the Constitution so much, I'm beginning to think that having an unwritten constitution is a better strategy.

I think that will all change with the Roberts court, especially if Dubya gets to appoint just one more. I'm praying one of the liberals or moderators will retire.
283 posted on 04/29/2006 9:52:55 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop
The very purpose of a Bill of Rights was to withdraw certain subjects from the vicissitudes of political controversy, to place them beyond the reach of majorities and officials and to establish them as legal principles to be applied by the courts.

My link given in post 266 shows the text of the often-overlooked preamble to the Bill of Rights, which reads (in part):

THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.
Anybody know what post 373 was? (I hope it wasn't mine!)
284 posted on 04/29/2006 9:58:42 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: Alamo-Girl
I'm praying one of the liberals or moderators will retire.

Let's not go there!

285 posted on 04/29/2006 10:00:28 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: PatrickHenry

LOLOL! I need another cup of coffee... obviously.


286 posted on 04/29/2006 10:02:22 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: PatrickHenry
Anybody know what post 373 was? (I hope it wasn't mine!)

I meant 273.

287 posted on 04/29/2006 10:06:46 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: PatrickHenry

It wasn't yours.


288 posted on 04/29/2006 10:10:36 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Thanks. (I'm always running scared.)


289 posted on 04/29/2006 10:16:01 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: PatrickHenry; Alamo-Girl
...the text of the often-overlooked preamble to the Bill of Rights

I certainly didn't overlook this PH. I quoted it at post 252 above in defense of my position.

I don't know who wrote 273, or why it's gone. Jeepers, I hate it when things like that happen!

As you say Patrick, anybody know?

290 posted on 04/29/2006 10:49:13 AM PDT by betty boop (The world of Appearance is Reality’s cloak -- "Nature loves to hide.")
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To: Alamo-Girl
[ I think that will all change with the Roberts court, especially if Dubya gets to appoint just one more. I'm praying one of the liberals or moderators will retire. ]

Bush is a globalist.. Alito and Roberts are no doubt globalists too.. else why did he select them.. Bush is starting to stink.. and he doesn't seem to care.. Being For so-called domestic "conservative" issues(debatable) and at the same time For eliminating Americas sovereignty is a good gambit.. It seems to be working heroically..

Anything to distract from closing the Mexican border is a win for a globalist.. The Balkanization of America is well advanced.. And republicans generally are like Judas goats.. Whatever the democrats attack(George Bush) the republicans will close ranks and support.. BRILLIANT really..

Republicans For BIG givernment and unlimited import of foreign democrats is quite brilliant.. ALL illegal and legal immigrants WILL be democrats you know.. OK.. there will be a few RINOs.. The voting demographics of America is changing rapidly and few care.. Again quite brilliant.. I don't like it a bit, but then you must admit, it is pretty smart..

291 posted on 04/29/2006 10:52:53 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: betty boop

273 was removed for language only. The poster could rephrase and repost without the disallowed word and it would be fine.


292 posted on 04/29/2006 10:54:25 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: hosepipe

But how do you really feel, hosepipe? (just kidding)


293 posted on 04/29/2006 11:14:27 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Religion Moderator

Thank you for letting me know, RM!


294 posted on 04/29/2006 11:38:15 AM PDT by betty boop (The world of Appearance is Reality’s cloak -- "Nature loves to hide.")
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To: betty boop

I don't know who wrote 273, or why it's gone. Jeepers, I hate it when things like that happen

That is so funny I feel the same way what did I miss? LOL

Yesterday I double post and asked one to be deleted...

Hours later I wonder what I missed! LOL


295 posted on 04/29/2006 12:09:00 PM PDT by restornu (An ungodly man diggeth up evil: and in his lips there is as a burning fire. - Prov.16: 27)
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To: Alamo-Girl

LoL...


296 posted on 04/29/2006 12:11:05 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: curiosity; ToryHeartland; Alamo-Girl; PatrickHenry; hosepipe
Actually, given how the courts have twisted the meaning of the Constitution so much, I'm beginning to think that having an unwritten constitution is a better strategy. It seems to work pretty well for the Brits. What sayest thou, friends from accross the pond?

I decided to respond before reading anyone else's opinion.

In general, down through the centuries the lack of a written Constitution seems to have served us well, because most executives have respected tradition. However Tony Blair is working fast to dismantle a system that has worked well for longer than pretty much anyone else's system, and there are no formal rules to stop him from doing that. Important new law goes through without parliamentary debate. The executive reigns undreamed, the House of Lords has been emasculated without being replaced with anything (in the name of fairness). We're getting close to an elected dictatorship (elected by less than a quarter of those eligible to vote). New administrative regions are created that no-one identifies with or cares about. Expensive new elected assemblies were set up for Wales and Scotland, yet Welsh and Scottish Westminster MPs still get to vote in Westminster on matters that don't affect their constituencies because those matters are controlled by the new assemblies. The government wouldn't dare contemplate self-rule for England though, of course, because an English assembly probably wouldn't be suitably socialist. Rant done.

297 posted on 04/29/2006 12:48:58 PM PDT by Thatcherite (Miraculous explanations are just spasmodic omphalism)
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To: Thatcherite
undreamed = untrammeled (I blame the spell-checker, I clicked the wrong correction)
298 posted on 04/29/2006 12:50:52 PM PDT by Thatcherite (Miraculous explanations are just spasmodic omphalism)
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To: Thatcherite
[ The government wouldn't dare contemplate self-rule for England though, of course, because an English assembly probably wouldn't be suitably socialist. ]

True.. but England(Wales, Scotland even Ireland) will be a mere State(s) in the World Republic.. eventually... so will the U.S.... in the new world order..

299 posted on 04/29/2006 1:40:08 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: longshadow

300


300 posted on 04/29/2006 1:53:39 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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