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New book slams EWTN - Father Trigilio takes on book's author, Christopher Ferrara
Renew America ^ | March 7, 2006 | Matt C. Abbott

Posted on 03/08/2006 10:01:59 AM PST by NYer

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To: franky; NYer; ArrogantBustard; Pyro7480; AnAmericanMother; wideawake; sitetest; bornacatholic; ...

Almost a decade ago, when I was on vacation, I watched EWTN and Mother Angelica for the first time. My local cable company didn't carry EWTN back then. Fellow Protestant friends of mine whose cable did have EWTN liked Mother Angelica a lot and recommended her to me.

That week of watching EWTN, especially Mother Angelica, was a factor in increasing my research and inquiry into the Catholic Church, and contributed to my eventual Tiber-crossing. So I figure I owe a debt of thanks to Mother Angelica and her network for my being a convert to the Church.


41 posted on 03/09/2006 12:14:30 PM PST by Convert from ECUSA (The "religion of peace" is actually the religion of constant rage and riots.)
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To: Michael J W

I only commented on what Mr. Ferrara himself chose to say in the interview. Since I do not plan to read his book, I also do not plan to comment on its content.

I think though that the enterprise on which Mr. Ferrara has embarked is foolish. He should direct his energy to creating his own network rather that bemoaning, with however much documentation, the fact that the EWTN is in agreement with Vatican II.


42 posted on 03/09/2006 1:05:45 PM PST by annalex
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To: Rosary; B Knotts; ninenot; sittnick; PalestrinaGal0317

And, dear Rosary, the SSPX schism is still well outside that narrow gate unless and until B-XVI or any of his successors rules otherwise. [Which may God forbid unless the schismatics render unconditional surrender to papal authority of John Paul II (posthumously), of Benedict XVI and of all of their successors].


43 posted on 03/09/2006 3:20:42 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

It was Father Corapi that helped me cross the Rubicon.


44 posted on 03/09/2006 3:22:50 PM PST by mware (A teacher of geography.)
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To: BlackElk; B Knotts; ninenot; sittnick; PalestrinaGal0317

Why do say right away "its the SSPX society"????
Christopher Ferra is a Traditional Roman Catholic who attends the Latin Tridentine MAss--it states no where SSPX.

Tradition will always CLASH with the Novus Ordo as Vatican 2 changed the way it used to be, the Catholic Faith that the marytrs died for and what's on EWTN ...WHEW..modern!!1% ok on certain topics as "super Saints"..99% liberal ,new and non-or NewWAY catholic..
What would the martyrs say>>>> "convert"


45 posted on 03/12/2006 11:38:35 AM PST by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)
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To: mware

I wish he'd go Traditional.....bet he will soon !


46 posted on 03/12/2006 11:39:39 AM PST by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)
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To: verga

EWTN is no more modern then Rome itself is.

Hit the nail on the head..since Vatican 2 !

Now tell me if people can see this "why Can't Rome?"


47 posted on 03/12/2006 11:42:12 AM PST by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)
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To: Thorin

Gee I wish he could and would < "More power for the Latin Tridentine Mass wanters who are shuts ins >

Get it on Ferra !!


48 posted on 03/12/2006 11:43:45 AM PST by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)
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To: Rosary; BlackElk; B Knotts; ninenot; sittnick

What about the tradition of the Pope being the head of the Catholic Church?
The Catholic martyrs died for their faith and their church because it was better to die than to leave the tradition of faith and allegiance. May we all be willing to go so far.
I'm still waiting for a specific and factual statement about the heresies or errors that EWTN is engage in, rather than blanket accusations.


49 posted on 03/12/2006 2:19:57 PM PST by PalestrinaGal0317 (We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity-Ann Coulter)
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To: BlackElk

Ya'll knows what the good Bible says about those who scandalize? Well be Catholic ! Not semi sweet swaying, mondern,liberal-luke warm, "c-a-t-h-o-l-i-c" EWTN shame on ya!


50 posted on 03/12/2006 3:16:55 PM PST by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)
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To: PalestrinaGal0317

No one ever said the Pope was not the Head of the Catholic Church--what is said-it that Rome has lost Tradition! has allowed the blessed altars to be torn out of their places and replaced with tables. That Vatican 2 has allowed the tabernacle to be shoved off somewhere in the "Catholic Churches" ..that the crucifix ,the main sign of being CAtholic has been tossed out for a plain, Protestant cross. ect. ect. Facing the people instead of Christ in the tabernacle is NOT Catholic.
and the Pope needs prayers, the martyrs died to defend the Catholic Faith unchanged, unmodernized,untouched by liberal thoughts.--- The Head of the Church needs prayers..the Faith is in trouble and has been for the last 40 yrs.
Watch the video" What we Lost and the Road to Restoration"


51 posted on 03/12/2006 3:28:47 PM PST by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)
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To: PalestrinaGal0317

No one ever said the Pope was not the Head of the Catholic Church--what is said-it that Rome has lost Tradition! has allowed the blessed altars to be torn out of their places and replaced with tables. That Vatican 2 has allowed the tabernacle to be shoved off somewhere in the "Catholic Churches" ..that the crucifix ,the main sign of being CAtholic has been tossed out for a plain, Protestant cross. ect. ect. Facing the people instead of Christ in the tabernacle is NOT Catholic.
and the Pope needs prayers, the martyrs died to defend the Catholic Faith unchanged, unmodernized,untouched by liberal thoughts.--- The Head of the Church needs prayers..the Faith is in trouble and has been for the last 40 yrs.
Watch the video" What we Lost and the Road to Restoration"


52 posted on 03/12/2006 3:29:05 PM PST by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)
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To: annalex; BlackElk

Get the book--see what proofs it holds then state your opinion--not before


53 posted on 03/12/2006 3:30:44 PM PST by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)
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To: Rosary

The purpose of the book is to discredit EWTN by pointing out that when seeing a choice between Vatican II and SSPX, EWTN chooses Vatican II. Since that is exactly the choices I make in my life, and I am familiar with SSPX's outlook already, I am not going to read it.

Moreover, the book is going to do some harm, as it will dampen the enthusiasm we all should feel by watching EWTN succeed while staying faithful to the Magisterium. Since I do not want to participate in this evil project, I will not buy the book, and I recommend that no one does. If the author wishes to debate how Vatican II got Tradition wrong, let him do so in a book that honestly addresses the controversy and leaves EWTN unmolested.


54 posted on 03/12/2006 3:39:53 PM PST by annalex
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To: annalex
The purpose of the book is to discredit EWTN by pointing out that when seeing a choice between Vatican II and SSPX, EWTN chooses Vatican II. Since that is exactly the choices I make in my life, and I am familiar with SSPX's outlook already, I am not going to read it.

You haven't read it, but you know the intent of it? There's a choice "between Vatican II and the SSPX"? What does this choice consist of? Is the book about the SSPX or something other than the SSPX?

Moreover, the book is going to do some harm, as it will dampen the enthusiasm we all should feel by watching EWTN succeed while staying faithful to the Magisterium.

Are we required to have enthusiasm for EWTN in order to remain faithful Catholics? How do we know that EWTN has remained "faithful to the Magisterium"?

Since I do not want to participate in this evil project...

How is it that it is evil? Can one not criticize EWTN without also criticizing Catholicism itself? Is EWTN "the Magisterium" or is it the official agent of the Magisterium of the Catholic Church such that one cannot criticize it?

I will not buy the book,

Then how can you make such broad claims?

and I recommend that no one does. If the author wishes to debate how Vatican II got Tradition wrong, let him do so in a book that honestly addresses the controversy and leaves EWTN unmolested.

Would you read it? I don't ever watch EWTN, so I wouldn't know much about it. But I do wonder how one can make such broad claims without them amounting to much more than an ill formed opinion based more on a preexisting grudge than anything else.

55 posted on 03/12/2006 6:52:15 PM PST by reductio
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To: Rosary; BlackElk
If the Pope is indeed the head of the Catholic Church, then he had every right to excommunicate Lefebvre etc in Ecclesia Dei .
56 posted on 03/12/2006 7:54:24 PM PST by PalestrinaGal0317 (We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity-Ann Coulter)
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To: Unam Sanctam
This is why I tear out my hear at these schismatics. There is so much work to be done constructively to shore up orthodoxy in the Church and counteract dissenters and heretics, and who do they attack, EWTN! It is such a waste and misuse of resources... Why don't they fight against real heretics for a change?

Ferrara is a schismatic?

57 posted on 03/12/2006 10:49:12 PM PST by reductio
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To: reductio

I have my intuition and the published words of Mr. Ferrara above.


58 posted on 03/13/2006 7:24:23 AM PST by annalex
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To: annalex
I have my intuition and the published words of Mr. Ferrara above. Your going to use these things to answer the questions soon, right?
59 posted on 03/13/2006 7:46:01 AM PST by reductio
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To: reductio

What is it you want to know?


60 posted on 03/13/2006 9:07:14 AM PST by annalex
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