What the Bible Says About SPEAKING IN TONGUES

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[.30Carbine]

Your "two cents" are like the widow's mite in my summation--more than all the others. Amen to your post. Thank you.

[jer33 3]

Thanks for the ping.

[WKB]

Read the 14th chapter of 1 Cor. with this thought in mind.

Tongue(Singular)= ecstatic utterance
Tongues(Plural) = Known Languages.

[RaceBannon]

you still need to explain how something to be understood and be translated can come out of an ecstatic utterance of nonsense

Tongues as spoken today are not Biblical.

[WKB]

Hey, I am on your side here.
I just find it interesting
that sometimes the word is singular
and sometimes it's plural.
I do believe what happens in private is
between that person and God is just that private.
But anything done in public must have an interpretation
or it is of no value to anyone.

[P.O.E.]

I guess I'd have to go with Agape.

[RaceBannon]

Sorry, I didn't see that side of your comment :)

[Zuriel]

**I just find it interesting
that sometimes the word is singular
and sometimes it's plural**

Simple.
Tongue= one language
Tongues= more than one language

Now, 1 Cor. 14:2 in full. Since in last nights haste I left out what is capped:

"For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: FOR NO MAN UNDERSTANDETH HIM: howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries."

I know that 'unknown'and 'him' are italicised in the KJV, but so what if they would seem added by men, that tongue IS unknown, "FOR NO MAN UNDERSTANDETH".

[P-Marlowe]

Your "two cents" are like the widow's mite in my summation--more than all the others. Amen to your post. Thank you.

Dittos.

I guess it's like every other "gift" that we get. IMO it comes down to something like "well if I don't speak in tounges, then nobody should speak in tounges." There was no time limit put on the gifts, only the promise that when that which is perfect is come, that which is in part will be done away. Well, I have seen no evidence that that which is perfect has come. So I'm not making any proclamations that those who speak in tounges are doing it in violation of scripture. I believe, however that it is a violation of scripture to blanketly forbid it.

My two cents

[righttackle44]

"Your essay on unintelligible gibberish really stunes my beeber."

Mark 12:24

24Jesus said to them, "Is this not the reason you are mistaken, that you do not understand the Scriptures or the power of God?

[Loud Mime]

If they were speaking in tongues in Roman times, was it pig-latin?

I find this whole idea risible.

[Friend_from_the_Frozen_North]

ACTS 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

I don't argue with scripture; it says what it says. However I can and will argue with the interpretation of what it might mean. If they spoke in a completely different language, then I believe the Holy Spirit also gave them the ability to understand that language because the whole idea behind testimony is telling about something you have a personal witnessed. I can't witness in German or Thai because I cannot speak either language (short of the Holy Spirit's direct intervention) but I can witness in English and if someone listening to me should hear it in German or English, that is the direct accomplishment of the Holy Spirit.

You are certainly entitled to disagree with me, I have been wrong a time or two and expect to find out I've been wrong on a great number of other things I always thought I was right on when I get to heaven. However, if I am wrong in this regard I will find that out in heaven because I don't believe the Holy Spirit would speak from my mouth without offering me the opportunity to understand what my own tongue is saying.

[Old_Mil]

If they were speaking in tongues in Roman times, was it pig-latin?

I've often entertained the idea of wandering into a Pentecostal service and breaking out the pig latin for an afternoon's entertainment. I'd wager that most of them would be so busy faking their own tongues experience that none of them would catch on.

[Full Court]

Thanks for posting that awesome article!

[Full Court]

My Messianic rabbi has the gift of a seer ("see-er"); God has spoken to him in visions.

Hebrews 1:1
 ¶God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past
unto the fathers by the prophets,

2  Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son,
whom he hath appointed heir of all things,
by whom also he made the worlds

[Full Court]

I've read thorough the thread. Any thoughts on recent events relating to the "speaking of tongues" while on ones death bed?

I've never heard of that!! That's interesting.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

That's not a definition; it's a title. And I'm not sure the title fits your statement anyway: "Love is the universal language, understood by all God's creatures." All you have is "Agape is the universal language, understood by all God's creatures." I'm just asking for a definition since it is the universal language. Is love feeling nice and fuzzy towards someone? Is it never having to say you're sorry? What?

[blue-duncan]

My wife has the gift of discernment and you know what that means.

[Zuriel]

**I've often entertained the idea of wandering into a Pentecostal service and breaking out the pig latin for an afternoon's entertainment. I'd wager that most of them would be so busy faking their own tongues experience that none of them would catch on.**

Funny. Sort of.

Some, so under the power of the Spirit, may not notice you. But God is not mocked, so a just reward is certain.

I don't think the 120, filled with the Spirit on Pentecost, were just speaking numerous languages in a sober fashion. They were obviously physically overjoyed to cause an accusation of being drunk. This has happened to me (one who persecuted and ridiculed such people, and was punished by the Lord for doing so).

Are there fakers? No doubt. Best proven by how they grow in the Lord, if at all. I've seen some sad cases where fakers wanted to belong so bad they would deceive themselves, only to end up with their lives in a mess again. The Holy Ghost gives one the power to overcome the world. There is no substitute.

[Old_Mil]

Some, so under the power of the Spirit, may not notice you. But God is not mocked, so a just reward is certain.

You're right - God is not mocked. Unfortunately, it's the pentecostals and charismatics that practice this sort of out of control pagan spirituality that mock Him. I guess that's why that denomination has the highest dropout rate of any Christian church.