Posted on 02/15/2006 6:22:47 AM PST by NYer
Simple. Matthew 10:5
Because we know that it does. We don't have to second-guess the Holy Spirit working through the Pope, unlike our brothers who rely on their own intellect to decide for themselves what is Christian beliefs, not knowing for sure if their interpretation is God's meaning.
Regards
Brother, then can't we presume that the Thessalonicans ALSO searched the Scriptures? We can presume that they did, correct? Consider that Paul first went to the synagogue in every case when he evangelized. Thus, we can presume that it wasn't the Scripture that determined whether the Word was accepted, as BOTH the Thessalonicans AND the Bereans would have likely searched the Scriptures, trying to determine the validity of Paul's Gospel, that was scandalous to the Jews and foolishness to the Greeks.
The point is that is wasn't the mere searching that made them noble! It was their acceptance of the Word. Is that agreeable? This is why I believe this verse is overused and doesn't prove in any way Sola Scriptura.
Regards
When did they return?
The scriptures don't say Peter was never in Rome. You've jumped to that conclusion. Where does scripture say Peter died and was buried?
The presence of Jesus Christ in the Holy Eucharist is the Truth.
Thanks for your prayers.
Jesus Christ spoke Ancient Aramaic, the language in which the disciples and apostles preached the Gospel and the scribes recorded the Scriptures. It was then translated into Greek. From the Greek, those words were then translated into the vernacular of contemporary societies. As a polyglot, I can assure you that things get lost in translation.
What in heaven's name does Matthew 10:5 have to do with second-generation ROMAN CHRISTIANS lying or not lying about St. Peter's burial place???
Ditto that!
"So Jesus said to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.'" (John 6:53-55)
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Lanciano, Italy 8th Century A.D.Ancient Anxanum, the city of the Frentanese, has contained for over twelve centuries the first and greatest Eucharistic Miracle of the Catholic Church. This wondrous Event took place in the 8th century A.D. in the little Church of St. Legontian, as a divine response to a Basilian monk's doubt about Jesus' Real Presence in the Eucharist. During Holy Mass, after the two-fold consecration, the host was changed into live Flesh and the wine was changed into live Blood, which coagulated into five globules, irregular and differing in shape and size. The Host-Flesh, as can be very distinctly observed today, has the same dimensions as the large host used today in the Latin church; it is light brown and appears rose-colored when lighted from the back. The Blood is coagulated and has an earthy color resembling the yellow of ochre. Various ecclesiastical investigation ("Recognitions") were conducted since 1574. In 1970-'71 and taken up again partly in 1981 there took place a scientific investigation by the most illustrious scientist Prof. Odoardo Linoli, eminent Professor in Anatomy and Pathological Histology and in Chemistry and Clinical Microscopy. He was assisted by Prof. Ruggero Bertelli of the University of Siena. The analyses were conducted with absolute and unquestionable scientific precision and they were documented with a series of microscopic photographs.
In conclusion, it may be said that Science, when called upon to testify, has given a certain and thorough response as regards the authenticity of the Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano. |
jo,
You and I are on the same "Team" pretty much all of the time on these FR Religion threads...but not THIS time! The Pats are back to enlarging their wayward dynasty next go round! Four out of six Super Bowls ain't bad...
;-D
Actually it was the bogus accusation made by William Cave that created this myth. However since youre blind to facts or history no amount of documentation will convince you otherwise. So let me ask you another question.
The scripture is silent on what happened to most of the Apostles, however there are other references to their activities. For example there are documented accounts of St. Thomas evangelizing in India and being martyred there.
Do you believe that St. Thomas was in India?
As a lifelong Pats fan Ill second that! Now if only the Red Sox could get back on track.
Well, as far as the Sox go, "Wait'll next year!" For once, though, I'm not saying that in the usual mantra-like way we all grew accustomed to before 2004. I mean: wait till next year. They won't make it through in '06, but we have Papelbon and Hanson returning in '07 much more seasoned, and Theo will have had ample time to spin some deals.
"Believe!"
Hey, I see from you FR page that you're flying a Florida flag. You from up here in MA originally?
I'm from Beverly on the North Shore. I'll be back in Bean town this labor day for a wedding. A family friend is getting married there and as luck would have it he went to High School with Jon Paplebon. I'm groveling now for tickets. I believe Toronto is town.
Actually, the text says that the Berean (Jews) were more noble because they readily received the Word and searched the scriptures daily.
Brother, then can't we presume that the Thessalonicans ALSO searched the Scriptures? We can presume that they did, correct? Consider that Paul first went to the synagogue in every case when he evangelized.
Thus, we can presume that it wasn't the Scripture that determined whether the Word was accepted, as BOTH the Thessalonicans AND the Bereans would have likely searched the Scriptures, trying to determine the validity of Paul's Gospel, that was scandalous to the Jews and foolishness to the Greeks.
The point is that is wasn't the mere searching that made them noble! It was their acceptance of the Word. Is that agreeable? This is why I believe this verse is overused and doesn't prove in any way Sola Scriptura.
Regards
From my reading of the surrounding test, ... it seems that the Thessalonican Jews were not so interested in searching the scriptures ... as they were in strring up a ruckus because of Paul ...Acts 17:10 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.It appears to me that the difference between the (majority of) the Berean Jews ... and the (majority of ) the Thessalonicans Jews ... is that the Bereans were willing to consult the scriptures ... before rashly rejecting Paul and his teachings.
11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
12 Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.
13 But when the Jews of Thessalonica had knowledge that the word of God was preached of Paul at Berea, they came thither also, and stirred up the people.
Recall that Jesus counseled another group to search the scriptures (for evidence of Him) ... but that they, too, were more interested in condemning Him.
Which other person might you be referring to? St. Paul? St. Peter? St. Gregory? St. Leo?
Let's see I have the wisdom all the church fathers before me and you sit there reading the bible interpreting it for yourself. Who has authority on their side? :-)
Hi X. Just yanking your chain. ;-)
We're well. We're Indiana now. Starting a farm. Of course not giving up the day job. There's a wonderful church here that we moved for, started by the FSSP. God they are wonderfully traditional. It feels like home. Truly.
Thanks for asking.
I try to stay off the bash threads nowadays. :)
Yeah, I know.....EVERYBODY jerks my chain. :>)
FSSP -- First Society of Sanctified Presbyterians???
(Society of Peter?)
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