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Where Have All the Protestants Gone?
NOR ^ | January 2006 | Thomas Storck

Posted on 02/15/2006 6:22:47 AM PST by NYer

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To: kerryusama04
Why does the Apostle's Creed end with a prayer for the resurrection of the dead if the dead are already in heaven or hel?

Read it again. The Creed is a statement of belief. It says "we look for the resurrection of the dead." It's a future event for us living here in time.

From eternity, it is no more future or past than any other event. I invite you again to contemplate eternity.

SD

661 posted on 02/16/2006 11:44:38 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: kerryusama04
Scripture, please? I have posted the scriptures the disprove this fable over and over. If I'm wrong and you show me, I will change my tagline to "soothingdave is the man and he proved me wrong. Thank God he saved me from my error".

How am I to disprove your interpretation of Scripture, when you have set yourself up as an infallible interpreter?

SD

662 posted on 02/16/2006 11:46:18 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: Full Court

It's stunning that you whittle down scripture as well.


663 posted on 02/16/2006 11:47:30 AM PST by Jaded (The truth shall set you free, but lying to yourself turns you French.)
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To: wmfights
How do you explain their failure to recognize SCRIPTURE instructing us we are justified by faith alone.

Say what? You mean we are NOT justified by faith alone - James 2...

It seems that in the defense of your church you are the one claiming that it can't sin. Look above to your comment about the magisterium. Are you now recognizing your church is fallible?

The Church is not ALWAYS infallible, only in very narrow definitions made known to all of Christianity. Sorry to disappoint, the Pope doesn't know who is going to win next year's Super Bowl...

GOD gave us JESUS CHRIST and because of our faith in him we are saved and become members of his CHURCH.

And what did Jesus Christ give us? A bible? Or a group of men that He sent out to preach and teach all that HE taught (not their own ideas)

Regards

664 posted on 02/16/2006 11:47:48 AM PST by jo kus
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To: kerryusama04

The resurrection of the dead is composed of the soul of the body re-animating the physical matter of the body, in order to stand in General Judgment before all the world, publicly exhibiting God's justice before all mankind. There is no contradiction here as you suppose. Meanwhile, you have yet to explain the presence of the elders and myriads of martyrs in Heaven *before* the end of the world as described in Revelation 7, as I've cited in detail in other posts.


665 posted on 02/16/2006 11:47:55 AM PST by magisterium
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To: SoothingDave

Dude, only Catholics claim infallibility. I'm no Catholic and am wrong lots. Just ask the wife :)


666 posted on 02/16/2006 11:49:38 AM PST by kerryusama04 (The Bill of Rights is not occupation specific.)
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To: jo kus; Mr. Lucky
Sorry to disappoint, the Pope doesn't know who is going to win next year's Super Bowl...

Hell, I know that.


667 posted on 02/16/2006 11:51:41 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: Full Court; magisterium
I'm a Bible Believer. "These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so." Acts 17:11

So WHY were the Bereans more noble than the Thessalonicans? What does it say above? Because they accepted the Word while the Thessalonicans did NOT. They weren't more noble BECAUSE they looked in the Old Testament. They were more noble because they believed. This verse is the most over-used verse of Scripture that I have ever seen that doesn't prove anything that Protestants want it to...

Regards

668 posted on 02/16/2006 11:52:07 AM PST by jo kus
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To: kerryusama04

Of this I have no doubt, and fully agree with you! ;-)

Yet you make pronouncements about the afterlife that run counter to nearly everyone else's understanding here on this thread, Protestant, Catholic and Orthodox alike, purely on your own authority!


669 posted on 02/16/2006 11:53:00 AM PST by magisterium
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To: wmfights
How do you explain their failure to recognize SCRIPTURE instructing us we are justified by faith alone.

If your Bible says "faith alone", throw it away, someone has altered the text.

It seems that in the defense of your church you are the one claiming that it can't sin. Look above to your comment about the magisterium. Are you now recognizing your church is fallible?

The Magisterium is infallible, that does not mean that those who serve the church are without sin. Christ gave the keys to Peter, the first of many Popes. Infallible is not the same as impeccable.

BTW the fastest growing denominations in the world are Evangelical.

And the Roman Catholic Church is the biggest. So what? neither one of those criteria matter when it comes to truth.

You are wrong. GOD gave us JESUS CHRIST and because of our faith in him we are saved and become members of his CHURCH.

Christ is God and founded His Church on Peter. That is, His visible Church on earth.

670 posted on 02/16/2006 11:53:49 AM PST by TradicalRC (No longer to the right of the Pope...)
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To: SoothingDave

Not if Kubiack picks Young.


671 posted on 02/16/2006 11:54:15 AM PST by Jaded (The truth shall set you free, but lying to yourself turns you French.)
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To: jo kus

with "readiness of mind" which scriptures did they search daily? 1 Clement?


672 posted on 02/16/2006 11:55:05 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: low_plains_drifter
Aye, but tis not the one residing in Roma.

Oh, but it is, laddie.

673 posted on 02/16/2006 11:55:14 AM PST by TradicalRC (No longer to the right of the Pope...)
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To: Jaded
Not if Kubiack picks Young.

Ya think he's gonna do that after extending Carr?

674 posted on 02/16/2006 11:55:56 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: magisterium
You watch too much sci-fi. Reanimation? Read the story of Jesus bringing Lazarus back from the dead. Did Adam exist prior to God making him out of clay?

Regarding the elders, I said that we only know of 3 people who are in heaven. If you can name some more, list 'em. Those folks are sure there as you mention, but we don't know who they are and where they came from, do we? The Catholics don't use the title "elder" anyhow, so we can rule them out :)

675 posted on 02/16/2006 11:57:28 AM PST by kerryusama04 (The Bill of Rights is not occupation specific.)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

He needs to sell Carr to the lowest bidder. He's a pretty face, well, he isn't even that. Kubiack will lose alot of local support if he passes up Young or trades the first pick.


676 posted on 02/16/2006 11:57:46 AM PST by Jaded (The truth shall set you free, but lying to yourself turns you French.)
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To: SoothingDave

So you've paid off the Colts to muff another chip-shot field goal?


677 posted on 02/16/2006 11:58:25 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

If he doesn't he should change the name back to the Oilers.


678 posted on 02/16/2006 11:58:40 AM PST by Jaded (The truth shall set you free, but lying to yourself turns you French.)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant; Jaded
Not if Kubiack picks Young.

Ya think he's gonna do that after extending Carr?

Either one ain't going very far without an offensive line. He should pick Bush and hope he can spring him every once in a while.

SD

679 posted on 02/16/2006 11:59:36 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

Sorry to disappoint, the Pope doesn't know who is going to win next year's Super Bowl...


The Steelers? Well, I should drive over to Vegas right now. I wonder what the odds are. You think you could mortgage your house for me, I'll put some money down for us!

Regards


680 posted on 02/16/2006 11:59:38 AM PST by jo kus
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