Posted on 02/15/2006 6:22:47 AM PST by NYer
For the 50th time.
If Jesus Christ had brothers and sisters AT ALL, He would have SINNED in giving care of HIS mother to John.
Since you posted your snippet to show how women are owned by men.... try the ENTIRE Pararaph. Perhaps the next one.
1 Corinthians 11
1Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.
Propriety in Worship
2I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings,[a] just as I passed them on to you.
3Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 4Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is just as though her head were shaved. 6If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head. 7A man ought not to cover his head,[b] since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. 8For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 10For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head.
11In the Lord, however, woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. 12For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God. 13Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. 16If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice—nor do the churches of God.
I never said that !
Put some ice on it, Dave.
I corrected my statement so that even you could understand it.
Perhaps I overestimated your skills.
I didn't say that or imply that. I posted what God says about why women were created. They were created FOR THE MAN, not the other way around.
Since you are a catholic, I don't expect you to take what God says in Scripture too seriously, put please do not lie and claim I said something I did not, or claim that the Bible says something it doesn't.
Corinthians 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
The woman was created for the man.
Genesis 2:18 ¶And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
As a female, I don't have a problem with the way God ordered things, why do you?
Perhaps I overestimated your skills.
Sounds like the good old days :)
BigMack
If Jesus Christ had brothers and sisters AT ALL, He would have SINNED in giving care of HIS mother to John.
It is amazing that you would ascribe sin to Jesus Christ rather than believe the full proof of Scripture that Mary had other children, and that she had sex with Joseph like any good wife should.
Holy Scripture is clear that Jesus had siblings, brothers and sisters. It in no way at all says that it was a sin for Jesus to give care of Mary to John.
You people have got to face real life here and smell the coffee.
You would actually rather believe that Jesus sinned rather than believe God's Holy Word.
What a shame.
BTW, if God had wanted to use the word nephew, he would of, in describing Jesus' brothers, because it is used in Scripture in other places. Also the word "cousin", if that had indeed been the case.
Jesus had siblings, Mary was a good wife who had maritial relations with her husband.
Matthew 1:25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
Maybe you can give me an example of a limb or eye growing back.
So you'd rather follow the men that brought you the homosexual/pedophile scandal than the Bible?
Full Court's postings are a clear example of how Sola Scriptura leads to solo scriptura. Each individual becomes their own pope and magisterium. With little or no knowledge of the language in which the Bible was written and ignoring the audience of the Gospel writers, each person 'interprets' Scripture anyway they wish. Two thousand years of theologians is totally disregarded.
Best to leave Full Court to her opinions and pray for her enlightenment.
XS>I corrected my statement so that even you could understand it.
XS>Perhaps I overestimated your skills.
BM>Sounds like the good old days :)
BigMack
1,566 posted on 02/24/2006 10:03:51 AM MST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Never under estimate the power of stupid people in a large group:)
Mack:
Some things never change, even after four or five years.b'shem Y'shuaGood to hear from you.
Blessings on you and yours!
I like your tag line.
Which makes you pretty friggin old. :-)
References to how Joseph kept Mary virgin prior to the birht of Jesus say nothing to whether they had marital relations after. References to "adelphoi", "brothers" of Jesus are collective references to kinsfolk, as is the common usage of "adelphos" or its Hebrew equivalent, which I forget at the moment, throughout Scripture. For example, Lot is described as Abraham's "brother" even though his genealogy is explicitly given and he is Abraham's nephew.
The scripture is silent on the question whether Mary remained virgin; the tradition is of a single mind that she did, and there is some indirect scripture that corroborates that.
Please refrain, in the future, from reading the scripture in an ill-educated way. Private interpretation of the scripture is forbidden by it. If you are in doubt how to understand a verse from the scripture ask a Catholic or an Orthodox, who can give you an apostolically correct interpretation. I, personally, will be happy to guide you any time you care to ask, as I have done so before.
No Jesus did not sin by asking John to take care of His mother. No one suggests that He did.
Blessings on you and yours.
b'shem Y'shua
You are correct. He/She should be my prayer intention for Lent. Surely that example is not what being a follower of Christ means.
I'm so old I fart dust...no wait thats Reggie :)
I may be older than you but you're still the ugliest one of the group.
BigMack
Ping. You are correct.
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