* Kevin Knight lives in Aurora, CO, he is the webmaster of www.newadvent.org, the Catholic website which provides both Thomas Aquinas Summa Theologica and the Catholic Enciclopedia.
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01/29/2006 5:25:57 AM PST by
NYer
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To: NYer
I consider your posting of this article to be divisive and hateful. Defend yourself, if you can.
To: NYer
>Extra ecclesiam - Outside the Church there is no salvation.
True.
To: NYer
Oh boy... here we go again. I am tired of these constant bickering sessions between Catholics and Protestants. Catholics believe that one man can infallibly interpret scripture. So do Evangelical Protestants. The Catholics call that person the Pope. Evangelicals call that person themself. Protestants who hate the Pope don't seem to grasp that all they have done is replace the Pope with millions of little popes less the miter. Orthodox Christians don't believe any one person can interpret scripture. Only the Church as a whole can interpret scripture through councils whose decisions are received by the faithful. Protestants and Catholics are just two sides of the same coin. Both wrapped up in the basic theology of the last millennium that has come to dominate the west, a theology that has a misplaced emphasis on legalism and scholastacism.
206 posted on
01/30/2006 1:08:44 AM PST by
jecIIny
(You faithful, let us pray for the Catechumens! Lord Have Mercy)
To: NYer
It depends on what one considers the Church.
Catholics and many Protestant denominations are taught that all doctrine is only of the their own particular denomination and priest or pastor and is therefore biblically incorrect.
The bible teaches the opposite, the church consist of all people who believe how that Jesus Christ , the son of God, died for our sins, was buried and rose the third day by the power of God so that all who believe this are saved from their sin.
So many Christians will not see the kingdom of God because they changed the gospel of grace into a lie of Satan and add personal works to the faith of Jesus Christ as necessary for salvation, which is a lie and will and has destroyed many souls through the centuries. Christ will return to the earth after the seven year tribulation to rule and reign in the kingdom age for 1000 years and then comes the end of the earth as we know it, though God will create a new heavens and a new earth for all the saved by grace through faith in the finished work of the cross saints.
I feel sorry for those who believe their good works will save them. It is an affront to God and his Christ. Ro.4: 2For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. 3For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. 4Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. 5But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Ep.2: 2Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) 6And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: 7That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. 8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. 11Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: It is finished, saith the Lord Jesus Christ.
239 posted on
01/30/2006 6:47:27 AM PST by
kindred
( Ro.5:6For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.)
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