Contradictions Between the Book of Mormon and the Bible

Institute for Religious Research ^ | 1999 | Luke P. Wilson

[Old Mountain man]

Well, by gosh, I'm gonna just call you a person.

[Old Mountain man]

Actually, I take the Lord very seriously but you are an interesting example of intolerant humor.

[colorcountry]

Thanks Brother Mountainman! ;-)

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you for pinging me to your reply! Indeed, we are compelled to speak up, especially concerning Jesus Christ.

So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me. When I say unto the wicked, O wicked [man], thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked [man] shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul. - Eze 33:7-9

The difficult part is to be sure we are speaking what He is saying and not what we are thinking He is saying or what someone else is telling us He is saying.

That is why I have the 3 prong test at post 258 before taking anything to heart and thereafter repeating it to anyone else.

My testimony about the Mormon doctrine as well as many other such doctrines is that they did not pass that 3 prong test for me, hence I am not Mormon, Catholic, Orthodox, etc. nor do I endorse any such doctrine of men. That is my warning as a watchman.

[xzins]

sewing dissent

Do you use a hand stitch or a machine stitch? (Just giving you a hard time. :>)

[restornu]

Do you use a hand stitch or a machine stitch?

Like my tagline onedoug??

[GOPPachyderm]

I don't know how it is possible to say that going to church has nothing to do with being a Christian. Jesus said if you love me you will keep my commandments.

If you say you believe, assembling together with other believers is remembering the Sabbath.

[Californiajones]

True. But God judges our heart, not our church attendance, that was my real point.

For example, church attendance under a gay minister in an Epsicopalian church would be very problematic for the Lord, I would think. Home churches where the Word goes forth after praise and worship would also count.

Jack Hayford of the Foursquare Church said some years back that he believed that God was leading the church (meaning the whole body of Christ over the whole world) out of institutional church thinking -- because going to church on Sunday is becoming less effective in our speedy, Internet age.

Home groups with stronger interpersonal ties between pastors and members seems to be the way the Spirit is counteracting the problem of "mega churches" and idolatry of Christian leaders and speakers. That's my only thought about it -- but you are right by saying we should go to church. The definition of such is in transition, I believe, for our present culture.

[Californiajones]

Yeah, thanks for the three pronged test. I fail it a lot. But Love covers a multitude of sin, thank you Lord.

The passage in Ezekiel 33 7-9 was soul shaking to me when I first read it. And still is. If we know the truth and do not love someone enough to call them to understanding if given the chance, their sin is on us. Help me Lord to be of self control, of Love and walking humbly in Your precepts.

Batter my heart, O three-personed God!

And thanks A Girl.

[Invincibly Ignorant]

because the Mormons believe the American Indians are one of the lost tribes of Israel, i.e. Mormons believe that Indians are Jewish.

Might wanna practice what you believe first before claiming to be an expert on other religions. Hurling insults at people you've never posted to in your life isn't exactly a "christian" trait. Hypocrite.

[Californiajones]

Wanna explain "hurling insults"?

And cut the personal attacks. Not allowed on FR.

[Californiajones]

And, while you are at it, wanna explain where I "claimed to be an expert on other religions"?

And, again, watch the personal insults.

[Invincibly Ignorant]

And, again, watch the personal insults.

Ya mean the "hypocrite" remark? Just following Jesus' example. Isn't that what he called Pharisees? (Although I happen to respect the Pharisees) You don't know me and yet in your first post ever to me you said my religion was "lukewarm". You telling me to watch the personal insults is laughable hypocrite.

[Californiajones]

Get your syntax up to speed, friend.

Calling conservative Judaism lukewarm is not a personal attack.

Paul, a Messianic Jew, or any of his Pharisaical forebears would not hesitate to call modern conservative Judaism"lukewarm" and would probably have you stoned for apostasy. As Paul the former Pharisee wrote -- either you keep the Law one hundred percent or you don't.

And of course, his point was -- you can't.

No one can.

Thus the need for a Messiah.

The Lamb of God, to take away the sins of the world by His innocent shed blood -- once and for all.

NOT waiting each year for the propitiation of sins for the blood letting ceremony at Jerusalem.

God's New Covenant is so practical for those of us who live out-country.

And one more time. Watch the personal attacks. This California gal is going for discernment of spirits and doctrine -- not pretending to know you or your personal problems or issues. So don't pretend you know mine.

[Invincibly Ignorant]

Calling conservative Judaism lukewarm is not a personal attack.

It was one of the most bigoted attacks I've seen on theses threads in quite some time. I repeat, you don't know me. You don't know any of the people that attend my synagogue. I understand you don't share the same beliefs but to say we're lukewarm is just plain ignorant.

Paul, a Messianic Jew, or any of his Pharisaical forebears would not hesitate to call modern conservative Judaism"lukewarm" and would probably have you stoned for apostasy. As Paul the former Pharisee wrote -- either you keep the Law one hundred percent or you don't.

Just like I will not hesitiate to label you a hypocrite and a bigot. Have a nice life making yourself look foolish on these threads. May you grow up quickly.

[restornu]

I am glad you found the words because I knew what was posted was very offensive but could not mentally wrap my brain around how someone could be so clueless of what they done!

[Californiajones]

And may the Lord God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob bless you with His Spirit mightily.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so very much for your encouragements, your testimony and prayer! Amen!

[P-Marlowe]

FWIW, II's purpose in life seems to be finding things that offend him. I'd ignore him if I were you.

[Californiajones]

You know P Marlowe, did anyone ever tell you that you really hear from the Lord?

You do. Thanks again.